Amendment 64...

did holder ever respond to hikenpooper?

I see it as Personal rights come with Personal responsibility. If I have a firearm, I am responsible for it and what I do with it.
If someone wants to get baked, fine. but do not expect someone else to carry you.

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Originally Posted by Robb

I haven't read all the posts in this thread so forgive me if this has been explained and pm me if you'd prefer. I just see a glaring hole in this.

Now that whatever amount is legal why would anybody go to a dispensory to buy it and pay a tax on it?
Obviously weed is everywhere (except in my house) so how would this generate ANY tax at all? Who the hell is going to be happy paying a tax on something that is widely available without paying a tax on it? Why would someone not keep getting 'bootleg' dope like they have been all these years and avoid the tax? They can't stop drugs flowing in as it is, so now tax it and they think they can? Maybe a few honest medical users will use the dispensories but I can't believe that's anywhere near a majority of users. I just envision people throwing it in our faces now that it's legal and it generates little to nothing.

Enlighten me how this will generate millions in tax dollars.

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I am allowed to brew my own beer, so why do I pay a visit to the liquor store every weekend? The same exact reason. I don't feel like investing the money for the equipment, the space in my house, the time it takes to learn all the techniques, the ingredients, etc, when I can just spend $8 at the liquor store and instantly have a product that is 100 times better than the disaster I would likely produce on my own.

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Originally Posted by cofi

did holder ever respond to hikenpooper?

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Yes, Holder, Hickenlooper, and the Colorado Attorney General all had a conference call. They basically said that they came to no conclusions and will continue the talks.

I am sick of everyone preaching about tax dollars for this weed crap. People that smoke weed habitually are the people that BREAK THE LAW. They are also often the ones who are low-life, jobless, subsidized, and unwilling to work for anything in life. Lawfully letting them smoke weed is going to help them how? Is it going to suddenly make them get over it start getting their shit together? Hell no! These people also don't pay JACK SHIT for taxes as it is now, do you really think that Obama or the State is going to make them step and pay substantial taxes on their weed? C'mon now. That will be paid for the Americans that are working and make substantial income. About as un-American as it gets.

The government has been pouring a lot of unnecessary dollars into the "War on Drugs" but if you are under the illusion that they are now going to put the money into something productive and that this "revenue" will somehow make the deficit improve in any noticeable amount, it's time to get over that notion. The added amount of money that will go into regulating it, changing all of the Revised Statues, the new court proceedings, issuing new tickets for all the Police agencies in the state, etc. will be a huge cost burden on the state as well. Not to mention it makes our state look like a joke to the rest of the country.

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Originally Posted by T-Giv

I am sick of everyone preaching about tax dollars for this weed crap. People that smoke weed habitually are the people that BREAK THE LAW. They are also often the ones who are low-life, jobless, subsidized, and unwilling to work for anything in life. Lawfully letting them smoke weed is going to help them how? Is it going to suddenly make them get over it start getting their shit together? Hell no! These people also don't pay JACK SHIT for taxes as it is now, do you really think that Obama or the State is going to make them step and pay substantial taxes on their weed? C'mon now. That will be paid for the Americans that are working and make substantial income. About as un-American as it gets.

The people you are describing here also abuse other things like alcohol, gambling, and even video games. The people you describe are the way they are for reasons other than that weed exists or is legal or illegal.

The government has been pouring a lot of unnecessary dollars into the "War on Drugs" but if you are under the illusion that they are now going to put the money into something productive and that this "revenue" will somehow make the deficit improve in any noticeable amount, it's time to get over that notion. The added amount of money that will go into regulating it, changing all of the Revised Statues, the new court proceedings, issuing new tickets for all the Police agencies in the state, etc. will be a huge cost burden on the state as well. Not to mention it makes our state look like a joke to the rest of the country.

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Many of us have already acknowledged that the concept of legalizing weed under the guise that it will be good for taxes is a total bullshit idea.

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Originally Posted by T-Giv

I am sick of everyone preaching about tax dollars for this weed crap. People that smoke weed habitually are the people that BREAK THE LAW. They are also often the ones who are low-life, jobless, subsidized, and unwilling to work for anything in life. Lawfully letting them smoke weed is going to help them how? Is it going to suddenly make them get over it start getting their shit together? Hell no! These people also don't pay JACK SHIT for taxes as it is now, do you really think that Obama or the State is going to make them step and pay substantial taxes on their weed? C'mon now. That will be paid for the Americans that are working and make substantial income. About as un-American as it gets.

The government has been pouring a lot of unnecessary dollars into the "War on Drugs" but if you are under the illusion that they are now going to put the money into something productive and that this "revenue" will somehow make the deficit improve in any noticeable amount, it's time to get over that notion. The added amount of money that will go into regulating it, changing all of the Revised Statues, the new court proceedings, issuing new tickets for all the Police agencies in the state, etc. will be a huge cost burden on the state as well. Not to mention it makes our state look like a joke to the rest of the country.

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I think you might be suprised to see the people who smoke alot of weed and keep it to them selves. You cant just lump everyone in the same catigory, it sounds verry ignorant. As for you second statement I agree, the goverment is verry good at wasting our money on all levels and that will not change until the american people are willing to do something about it. I just dont see how keeping marijuana illeagal will change that, your argument is idiotic.