So far the libs just make themselves look weak when they attack Romney.
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So far the libs just make themselves look weak when they attack Romney.
What if public opinion see's Ryan as a clear winner?
The administration is back on their heels now, dealing with Libya amongst other things.
A Ryan win would really toss them into tailspin.
October surprise anyone?
No he would be the most senior. Qualified is not a word to describe Biden.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ridge
DAVE. WTF you're an alright guy (easy on the eyes[ROFL1]) Most of the non pony shit you post fits in.
HOWEVER You need to put the pipe down brudda. You latest shit i've been reading has me believe either one of the left leaning newbies from ft collins or denver hacked your account.
OR that pony shit been in your ass too many times for you to separate fantasy from reality.
The radiation from all the on line gaming you do fucked up your brain dude, fucked it up.[Bang][Bang][Bang][Bang][Bang][Bang][Bang]
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Originally Posted by jim
Quoted for awesomeness, hilariousness and as Charlie Sheen would say....WINNING[ROFL1]
It's really not hard to comprehend if you listen and you're paying attention:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ridge
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ON ROMNEY'S TAX PLAN
RYAN: You can -- you can cut tax rates by 20 percent and still preserve these important preferences for middle-class taxpayers...
BIDEN: Not mathematically possible.
RYAN: It is mathematically possible. It's been done before. It's precisely what we're proposing.
BIDEN: It has never been done before.
RYAN: It's been done a couple of times, actually.
BIDEN: It has never been done before.
RYAN: Jack Kennedy lowered tax rates, increased growth. Ronald Reagan...
BIDEN: Oh, now you're Jack Kennedy?
RYAN: Ronald Reagan -- Republicans and Democrats...
BIDEN: This is amazing.
RYAN: Republican and Democrats have worked together on this.
I am surprised that Biden did as well as he did, he was more clear than i expected.
after his public performances over the last couple of years I am wondering what kind of drugs he took? The excessive grinning and then anger and then grinning and then anger, weird combination of emotional response
You want Braeburn. You just don't know it yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by jim
I thought on balance it was a draw. Ryan did very well not getting sucked into Biden's condescending wierdness. At times it seemed the moderator and Biden were both interrupting and challenging Ryan, sort of double-teaming. Moderator only challenged Biden a couple of times.
Biden's use of the "you're no Jack Kennedy" was inappropriate, as Ryan was only using an example of cooperation during the Kennedy years and not trying to channel Kennedy or represent what Kennedy said.
I think Biden opened up a new can of worms on Libya that Beeho probably wants to avoid. He threw the intelligence people under the bus and stated that at no time did the ambassador or others at the embassy ask for more security. The amazing thing about the intelligence is that it was obviously terrorism to anyone watching the news on 9/11 - pretending otherwise is either lying or incredibly stupid.
I do wish Ryan had challenged Biden on more things, but on countless occasions he was cut off by the moderator. For example, when Biden said the one thing you can count on from him is he always means what he says, I wish Ryan had brought up the "put you all in chains" and more recent "middle class has been slammed the last 4 years" comments. Biden brought up Romney's "47%" comment al least 5 times.
I felt Biden had more speaking time during the debate, which turned out to be the case afterward - but was turned off for Biden demanding equal time.
I expect that most undecideds (if they truly are undecided) will be at least partially influenced by Bidens arrogance/interruptions/condescention. Biden's performance will no doubt re-energize the Dem base, tho - which was probably the purpose.
Singlestack
Ryan's story about the family lost in the car wreck was kind of a dick move. Biden's wife and daughter were killed in a car accident.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Bid...litical_careerQuote:
On December 18, 1972, a few weeks after the election, Biden's wife and one-year-old daughter were killed in an automobile accident while Christmas shopping in Hockessin, Delaware.
That was Romneys story that Ryan told, and I think the family lived if I remember right, they were injured pretty bad and Romney invited them over for chirstmas and then offered to pay for the kids college.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ridge