Shooting at School in Parkland, Florida

Interesting article explaining why the shooter had no previous record despite 30something call outs.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com...s/#more-146029

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School Shooting Was Outcome of Broward County School Board Policy – Now Local and National Politicians Weaponize Kids for Ideological Intents…

Posted on February 19, 2018 by sundance

CTH has intentionally stayed away from discussion of the Parkland school shooting as we watched and reviewed the response. However, it’s time to call the Broward School Board officials to task and simultaneously prepare the class-action lawyers to cripple the system.

Broward County schools intentionally created polices from 2010 through 2016 that culminated in the 2018 mass school shooting in Parkland. We know this with great specificity because five years ago we warned Broward County Florida school board members this could happen.

In 2012 and 2013 while doing research into the Trayvon Martin shooting we discovered an alarming set of school policies being enacted in Miami-Dade and Broward County Florida. The policies were called “diversionary programs” and were essentially about stopping High School students from being arrested. Law enforcement was instructed to avoid arrests and defer criminal conduct to school administrators.

Students who engaged in violence, drug sales, robberies, burglaries, theft and other various crimes were intentionally kept out of the criminal justice system. County administrators and School Superintendents told local and county law enforcement officers to stop arresting students.

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2013 […] Broward, the nation’s seventh largest district, had the highest number of school-related arrests in Florida in the 2011-2012 school year, according to state data. Seventy-one percent of the 1,062 arrests made were for misdemeanor offenses. (more)

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Unfortunately, the school board mandated policies came into conflict with law and order. The problem of the conflicted policy -vs- legality worsened over time as the police excused much more than misdemeanor crimes. Over time this culminated in police officers falsifying documents, hiding criminal activity, lying on official police reports and even hiding stolen merchandise police retrieved from high school students.

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Good for Florida to not take the knee jerk reaction option.

https://www.local10.com/news/parklan...udents-present


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Originally Posted by CoGirl303

Good for Florida to not take the knee jerk reaction option.

https://www.local10.com/news/parklan...udents-present


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I saw that last night. A 2fer. A stupid motion struck down and moron snowflakes crying in public.

From http://woodpilereport.com/

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All we have to "understand" is who did it, Nikolas Cruz by name. A century ago he would have gone to trial within weeks, and if convicted, publicly executed soon thereafter with hymn singing and refreshments all around. As long as justice was served, anyone was free to peddle their tea time theories.

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Cruz should be put down like the evil dog he is, after a fair trial by a jury of his peers.

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Originally Posted by GloRida

"I can't think of one school shooting committed by an adult - a real adult, like 30+ years old.

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This is a huge part of the problem in this country.

The squeakie wheel gets the grease. The protesting of the left gets action because we HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. Maybe it’s time that we legal gun owners start protesting for the laws already on the books to be enforced. I sure I don’t have all of the details but I believe this tragedy could have been averted. This shooter fell through huge cracks, all the signs were there. More restrictive laws are not the solution to school shootings but is instead a step toward the agenda of the left in furthering restrictions to gun ownership. Very few seem to want to have a discussion on mental health issues. We need to understand the commonality shared amoung all school shooters as well as all shooters in mass killings. We have to know the cause, the symptoms in order to stop this madness.

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Originally Posted by Flycassutts

The squeakie wheel gets the grease. The protesting of the left gets action because we HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. Maybe it’s time that we legal gun owners start protesting for the laws already on the books to be enforced. I sure I don’t have all of the details but I believe this tragedy could have been averted. This shooter fell through huge cracks, all the signs were there. More restrictive laws are not the solution to school shootings but is instead a step toward the agenda of the left in furthering restrictions to gun ownership. Very few seem to want to have a discussion on mental health issues. We need to understand the commonality shared amoung all school shooters as well as all shooters in mass killings. We have to know the cause, the symptoms in order to stop this madness.

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The left will never agree to that.

More proof that the left just wants to ban firearms ownership so they can sweep through America like their heroes Stalin, Mao, and Hitler swept through their own countries murdering the people who opposed them.

This is refreshing...

Florida school shooting survivor: Media using tragedy to push gun control

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A survivor of the deadly shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, who was previously interviewed by CNN and MSNBC following the mass shooting, told Fox News he believes certain media outlets are politicizing the tragedy to push gun control.

Brandon Minoff, an 18-year-old senior, said the media chose to target gun control advocates instead of focusing on the 17 lives lost in Wednesday's slaughter.

“I wholeheartedly believe that the media is politicizing this tragedy,” Minoff said. “It seems that gun control laws is the major topic of conversation rather than focusing on the bigger issue of 17 innocent lives being taken at the hands of another human.”

Minoff said students at the school are well-meaning and passionate on both sides of the contentious gun issue. At least 100 students from the school were expected to march in front of the State Capital in Tallahassee on Wednesday to demand stricter gun laws. Dozens of his classmates have willingly approached reporters and anchors to advocate for what they see as solutions to stop the school shooting epidemic. But Minoff said not all of the students at the school share the same stance -- yet most of the coverage has ignored those who favor gun rights.

“I know many people who are pro-gun and others who support gun control but it seems that the media is specifically targeting those in support of gun control to make it seem as if they are the majority, and the liberal news outlets are the ones that seem to make the bigger effort to speak to these people, and I'm talking from experience,” said Minoff, who was interviewed on cable news in primetime.

Minoff, who had a class with shooter Nikolas Cruz during his sophomore year, was outside when Cruz started firing. Minoff's brother, Aiden, was inside and heard the shots.

But Minoff said as soon as the gunfire stopped, the gun control push began.

“After getting home Wednesday night, three hours after the shooting took place, sitting on the couch and putting on the news, it pained me to hear conversations of gun control laws as I had just luckily escaped one of the deadliest school shootings in US history," Minoff said.

MSNBC’s Brian Williams asked Minoff what he would do as a lawmaker to stop school shootings. Minoff immediately replied that banning guns just creates a higher demand for them, and contended the real issue is mental health reform.

The next day, Minoff said he watched as CNN again focused on gun control even as the shooter's troubling mental health history -- and missed warning signs -- began to emerge.

“And all day Thursday, CNN was interviewing gun experts and specialists to brainwash the audience that gun control is a necessity,” he said. “They even have an army of my classmates trying to persuade other students that guns are unnecessary and should be illegal.”

Minoff said he supports the First Amendment rights of his classmates, but he believes many of them are uninformed about guns and are just going along with the perceived popular opinion.

He pointed out that on the “March For Our Lives” website the mission statement says “We cannot allow one more teacher to make a choice to jump in front of a firing assault rifle to save the life of students.” But, he noted, an assault rifle is an automatic weapon, and there wasn’t an assault rifle used in the Florida shooting -- rather Cruz was armed with an AR-15.

Like many of his classmates, Minoff wants to make changes so this doesn’t happen again, and he hopes to meet with President Trump to discuss solutions.

Minoff supports some regulations when it comes to purchasing firearms, such as age restrictions and more extensive background checks that include police reports -- especially given the police were called to the Cruz residence nearly 40 times before the shooting occurred.

“I would also talk about the importance of arming security guards and other trained individuals in schools," he said. "The only armed person in the school, the SRO, was reportedly nowhere to be found during the time of the attack and it shows in the fact that Cruz managed to vacate the school unscathed."

He added: "At the same time, [security guard and] Coach Aaron Feis had a face-to-face altercation with Cruz and was unable to do anything but use his body to shield others. The definition of security is ‘state of being free from danger or threat,’ but there is no freedom from danger or threat when security guards are unarmed.”

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I guess we have to install metal detectors in schools like the airports have. I had to go through a metal detector at the Stapleton airport in 1976 to get on the plane. I was 17 and on leave from the Air Force. The guy in front of me set off the detector. He showed the security agent a Denver PD badge and said he was armed. She said "I have to let you through" to him.

Metal detectors would do the trick, as long as they are hardened. A metal detector does zero good if a determined person starts their spree with the person running the metal detector.

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Originally Posted by Irving

Metal detectors would do the trick, as long as they are hardened. A metal detector does zero good if a determined person starts their spree with the person running the metal detector.

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I could never wrap my head around unarmed security next to a metal detector