March for Our Lives

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Originally Posted by TFOGGER

To those that think that bullying causes these events, I have news: Kids have bullied other kids and been bullied for as long as people have lived together in groups. What has changed in the last 50 years is that we started punishing kids for pushing back. it used to be that bullied kids would eventually get fed up and poke the bully in the nose. Everybody learned something in the process. The bully learned that it hurts when you get popped in the nose, the kid that got tormented learned that they could stand up for their self. I know, because I was the kid that got his ass teased and tormented, right up until 9th grade. The difference now is that if there's a fight, everyone gets suspended or expelled, so kids bottle up their anger and frustration until they literally explode, and they figure if they're going to be punished, they might as well go all the way. In the age of "zero tolerance", the school systems have removed a vital pressure relief system, and have reaped the results.

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This was my experience, but my experience was less than 50 years ago. It was about in the 40 year range.

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Originally Posted by TFOGGER

To those that think that bullying causes these events, I have news: Kids have bullied other kids and been bullied for as long as people have lived together in groups. What has changed in the last 50 years is that we started punishing kids for pushing back. it used to be that bullied kids would eventually get fed up and poke the bully in the nose. Everybody learned something in the process. The bully learned that it hurts when you get popped in the nose, the kid that got tormented learned that they could stand up for their self. I know, because I was the kid that got his ass teased and tormented, right up until 9th grade. The difference now is that if there's a fight, everyone gets suspended or expelled, so kids bottle up their anger and frustration until they literally explode, and they figure if they're going to be punished, they might as well go all the way. In the age of "zero tolerance", the school systems have removed a vital pressure relief system, and have reaped the results.

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While I do agree on that, i also think a big change is kids and social media. Bullied kids used to get away from most of it when school got out. Now, with smart phones and social media, kids have to place to get away from the HS crap. Loners are constantly reminded how alone they are when browsing social media, easy to bully online that would never happen in person (e thugs), etc. Social media is very dangerous and kids shouldnt be on there, IMO.

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Originally Posted by Dave_L

While I do agree on that, i also think a big change is kids and social media. Bullied kids used to get away from most of it when school got out. Now, with smart phones and social media, kids have to place to get away from the HS crap. Loners are constantly reminded how alone they are when browsing social media, easy to bully online that would never happen in person (e thugs), etc. Social media is very dangerous and kids shouldnt be on there, IMO.

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Yet instead of blocking such items, they as others do check them on a daily? basis. Did my social standing improve or take a bigger dive? How many likes did i get this hour, etc.

IMO part of that lies on the parent[s] shoulders. Does their child actually need a cell phone while in school, at home? Should schools have each student keep their phone in a box on the teachers desk, each with their name on it.

Remember when the family unit use to talk at the table, or at home when cell phones were not there. Take a look around when you go to dinner, movies, shopping. Who knows how many people have their face and thumbs buried on their phone.

Train up a child in the way he should go; even when he is old he will not depart from it.

Fathers, do not provoke your children to anger, but bring them up in the discipline and instruction of the Lord.

The rod and reproof give wisdom, but a child left to himself brings shame to his mother.

Folly is bound up in the heart of a child, but the rod of discipline drives it far from him.

Whoever spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is diligent to discipline him.

Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. “Honor your father and mother” (this is the first commandment with a promise),

Happy Easter everyone. All we can do is raise up our kids right, and push for better school policies that reinforce good behavior.


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"Bullying" is a feature of collectivism. Conformity, and the means to enforce it, are being taught to kids at a very young age. Diversity is no longer being a unique individual but part of an established identity group.

More collectivism = more bullying.

This is why it has changed since many of us grew up. So yes, many of us had to deal with bullies but not on a level like today. Add in absent parents and the only source of self-esteem is peer groups.

Social media is made for Libs by Libs. It is low information, promotes consumerism, easy to manipulate users with nudging techniques, and high school cliquish for superficial adults. Many I know who seriously use it have stopped because they've taken stock on how it makes them feel. Subjective, I know.

The socials were also created by intellectual children (no accountability, "maybe somebody dies"). So it's no surprise to me that the socials that are being used to create a culture of bullying.

No minor, bullied or not, should really be on the socials IMHO.

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Originally Posted by Skip

No minor, bullied or not, should really be on the socials IMHO.

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LIKE. It's often toxic and detrimental to normal human development, but that also goes beyond minors IMNSHO.

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Originally Posted by TFOGGER

To those that think that bullying causes these events, I have news: Kids have bullied other kids and been bullied for as long as people have lived together in groups. What has changed in the last 50 years is that we started punishing kids for pushing back. it used to be that bullied kids would eventually get fed up and poke the bully in the nose.

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My thoughts exactly.

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Originally Posted by Skip

That's what this is really about. Projecting violence against the American people. He makes the very case for 2A. People are doing something I don't like so let's criminalize and send LE after them. Yes he knows, and probably hopes, that some of those encounters would result in people being killed. It would serve as an example of how powerful he is!

They don't hate guns because they kill. They hate guns in our hands because it is an offense to their false authority and a barrier to progress. They'll have no problem using the guns they claim to hate against us.

It is difficult to effectively project violence against a population that is armed which is why the Founders gave us 2A. It becomes a massive span of control problem because things break down to 1:1. Much harder when the advocates of this violence are mostly unwilling/unable to get their hands dirty. They rely on organizations to do their political killing. The Brownshirt/lesser known Blackshirts/Cheka all had the power of fear because their victims were disarmed. They weren't operating 1:1, 1:1000+ was sufficient to install the new party/government. Once the new government was set up the killing could begin in earnest.

Once this mechanism is built and honed it will be unstoppable. Replace "guns" with the next verboten thing on their list. Replace "gun owners" with the next targeted group. There's no end to the people who will commit the crime of existing and the ways these Lib authoritarians can frighten people and suppress freedom.

This is also why they are using kids. Children don't have the ability to evaluate consequences. They simply don't understand how their advocacy will shape the world in which they must live. These children keep talking about their rights while demanding we make an already unaccountable master all powerful. It's nonsense.

Courtesy of Matt Bracken...

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Bingo! Excellent post.

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Originally Posted by DavieD55

Bingo! Excellent post.

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No, it's a very chilling post.

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Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo

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Remember when the family unit use to talk at the table, or at home when cell phones were not there. Take a look around when you go to dinner, movies, shopping. Who knows how many people have their face and thumbs buried on their phone.

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Spent Easter Sunday with extended family and everyone including adults for the most part of the day were buried in a phone. I guess I'm out of the loop I didn't take a phone or tablet with me.Kinda planned on an actual visit with folks.