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Bailey the world is not black and white and the current system makes it so I vote for people who support the statement that "corporations are people" and guns are good.... vs another side that says that corporations are not people but are instead artificial gov created figments of law and guns are bad. Both issues are of huge importance to me. These two parties are almost colluding to keep us divided.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bailey Guns
Bailey for the next election, I am voting straight GOP for all state races either that or for a D who was against the gun control measures (we have to find a way to reward them too). After the laws are overturned, I am going to vote 3rd party, because I can not lie to myself that I have to vote for Demopublicans as the only choice. I can not support a system created by these two parties that is this broken anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bailey Guns
I vote republican for very simple reasons. The republican party and candidates generally most closely represent my personal values. It's never a perfect match and many republicans do things that piss me off. But the general republican party platform most closely matches my beliefs and republicans and democrats are realistically the only two parties that are going to be elected.
Their stance on 2A freedoms are the main issue I look for in a candidate. Even if a republican isn't a hard-core pro-2A person they will almost never sponsor anti-gun legislation and when push comes to shove they will usually vote with the party against 2A infringements. Obviously, Sen Toomey is a glaring issue of why I said "almost never".
That's also why I would vote for a lukewarm pro-2A republican rather than a democrat with a more solid 2A voting record. It comes down to party. More often than not a politician will vote with his party when pressured by the party leadership. Party trumps person...I'm a firm believer in Rosen's theory.
I am glad someone is spreading education to the libs.
You're wrong... I never used the word "Traitor"- now if you want to put words in my mouth- then please at least allow me to point out that by doing so you are putting your foot into your own mouth. You must be a wonderful student of the libtard socialist douchebag academy where you discredit those you argue against by quoting them as saying something they never did. Please, cease now, you only look like a tool. I simply implied that by going against the Constitution is unamerican, not traitorous, not treasonous, but contrary to what we as Americans do. It's not like a silly law that a bunch of pole smoking liberal fuckwads passed that allows Adam and Steve to have a civil union, this is the end all, be all, LAW OF THE LAND Constitution, ya know, the thing that takes a moving of heaven and earth to change.Quote:
Originally Posted by nynco
And what Bailey said, the party itself has already stated that they're anti-gun, THE PARTY, hence making a "pro gun democrat" akin to a "hypocrite" or "walking contradiction."
This has never been the problem and by saying so we're redirecting from where the focus should be. Liberals have been "educated", and continue to be "educated", on the fallacy that is gun control. It's not lack of education or information. It's what they choose to do with that information and it's a war of ideology and emotion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rabid
It would be helpful if we didn't say things like this because it implies it's just a lack of information. It isn't.
Ronin, I misspoke and said traitor when you said the world "UNAMERICAN". To me the two terms are interchangeable or close. That still does not change my point that you would have a hard time being a cop if you looked at half the population in that light.
Bailey... I think the solution is to weaken the power of the parties and instead make the system more dependent on the actual person you vote for. Or find some other way to make it more than just 2 parties that always control everything.
Committed Democrats are about 30-35% of the population, not 50%. Some things ARE black and white no matter how much Obama and his ilk try to make them out to be gray.Quote:
Originally Posted by nynco
I'm glad a few Democrats can see that the gun control arguments offered are so much pap but pardon me for only offering a soft golf clap for them realizing this when they still support so many illogical, unconstitutional and flat-out unAmerican measures. I used to be much more ambivalent about both parties but 2010s Democrats are not the same as 1970s Democrats and the 2010 version are (for the most part) domestic enemies of the Constitution, American heritage and common sense. Period.
Bailey, I know you don't like me or just tolerate me sometimes. You are getting better and I commend you for that. But sometimes the way you deliver the message could turn off the target audience to any truth that you might be trying to tell them. I am guilty of that too and so are most people to some degree. Sometimes how the message is presented any by whom matters just as much as the truth of the message.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bailey Guns
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Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter
I agree and think that BOTH parties are part of the problem. Its not just one side. I would gladly vote for Eisenhower conservatives over most of the current D-holes.