NAGR spends more than every gun group combined on lobbying

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Originally Posted by BCMEAG

Yep, that was a turn off to me as well when I first joined RMGO and made me take a wait and see approach as well. Why are we bickering when we are on the same side? I think in the last couple of years the NRA and RMGO are closer than they've been in the past. Maybe I am wrong, but it seems the NRA is taking a tougher stance with less compromising than in the past. Unfortunately for us gun owners these gun groups are in competition for our memberships and dollars sometimes at the detriment of us gun owners.

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Originally Posted by BCMEAG

That's the problem when you have two entities that think two different roads of travel are best. I am starting to believe the no compromise position of RMGO (NAGR) is best being that there is no compromise with the 2A. I was a hard core off road dirt biker for years and we continuously compromised with the enviros; we gave up trails and never got anything in return.

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Originally Posted by BCMEAG

Yep, he probably should have been here, but it probably wouldn't have helped as you are not going to change liberal minds; they hate guns. I think Mr. Brown is correct in that the best action is at election time to get officials elected that are pro gun. Once your adversaries have won elections there is not much you can do as they have their agenda. Plus, from my brief encounters with Joe Neville he seems pretty competent.

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Honestly aside from your "curiosity" regarding issues with rmgo, you seem to be making excuses for them, rather than address your original ??'s

Your last post contradicts your second reply. Here's the deal. While Dudley's heart use to be in the right place and had the best interest of CO gun owners. He has turned in to a divisive bomb thrower. IF YOU SEARCH AS MENTIONED BEFORE there are a few post regarding Dudley and me asking questions. Never replied / addressed any of my or other board members questions.
IF you're not willing to step up to the plate on of all places a Gun Forum, you sure as hell don't have my support OR money.

This thread verifies my stance.approximately 7 hours ago RMGO / The dudley starts a thread regarding RMGO / NAGR . Criticism is leveled towards him and not a peep to counter / justify RMGO's position, reason for posting. The only one to have his back is suspiciously enough a new board member with 9 post, 8 of them in this thread alone.
RMGO Shill or just a head in the clouds disciple?

I'll do a more thorough search I guess and see what I can find. As far as the contradiction, I don't follow. As far as the last paragraph, I don't know what to say to that.

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Originally Posted by BCMEAG

I'll do a more thorough search I guess and see what I can find. As far as the contradiction, I don't follow. As far as the last paragraph, I don't know what to say to that.

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Maybe you can tell good ol mr brown to step his shit up.

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Originally Posted by BCMEAG

I'll do a more thorough search I guess and see what I can find. As far as the contradiction, I don't follow. As far as the last paragraph, I don't know what to say to that.

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I am starting to believe the no compromise position of RMGO (NAGR) is best

Yep, he probably should have been here, but it probably wouldn't have helped

Fairly self explanatory. IF. KEY WORD IF RMGO was a true NO COMPROMISE .org. He would have rescheduled his "Lobbyist" duties and stood up . AFTER ALL, NO COMPROMISE, MEANS JUST THAT NO COMPROMISE.

EVERYONE here knows had the NRA used the I have to be in DC excuse RMGO would have taken full page ad's out in every gun rag, condemning them for shirking their duties at a critical time.

UM YEAH, UMMM. Anyone see my red stapler?

You know, any organization that fights for our 2A rights has my respect. I may not always agree with their tactics and constant fund raising but I am glad they are there.

So what's your solution? You obviously have very strong thoughts on the matter which I respect. What if this website started a 2A organization in the state of Colorado? The website has what, 6,000-7,000 members already?

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You know, any organization that fights for our 2A rights has my respect. I may not always agree with their tactics and constant fund raising but I am glad they are there.

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+1

I wish that RMGO would just STOP the comparison baiting to other 2A organizations. The bottom line, for me, is that I am supportive of ANY and ALL organizations that work to defend our 2A rights. The one-upmanship within those ranks does NOTHING to encourage me to support the speaker - except to wonder if they could not be MORE effective if they would simply focus ALL their attention on 2A defense instead of the feigned in-fighting.

FWIW

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Originally Posted by RMGOdirector

The Virginia-based National Association for Gun Rights spent more than $3 million from April through June to advocate against dozens of firearm-related bills and amendments. That’s nearly four times the second-quarter lobbying expenditures of the better-known National Rifle Association, which itself spent a near-record $840,000 during the year’s second quarter....

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Why only report the second quarter? What's the point of the second quarter when so many of the legislative sessions are wrapping up? The time to spend money against those bills were the two quarters before then. Maybe that's why $840K is a near record for the NRA in the second quarter.

I won't ding RMGO because legislators I respect have said they do good work but Dudley turned me off from donating to RMGO or NAGR with his virulent anti-NRA diatribes, lies about Jane Norton (it's fine that he preferred Ken Buck but not fine that he equated her with Sarah Brady and called her an anti-gunner) and rude responses. Norton may not have been perfect to a lot of conservatives but she was no Sarah Brady despite what Dudley said and she would have beat Bennet handily by pulling swing votes that Buck didn't get. Good for those who donate to RMGO because they feel it's serving their interests, I'm just not one of them.

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So what's your solution? You obviously have very strong thoughts on the matter which I respect. What if this website started a 2A organization in the state of Colorado? The website has what, 6,000-7,000 members already?

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Better tactics.
Sure, fundraise. But your appearances before legislature/public need to be very well thought out and precisely planned.
Pissing matches with legislators in the capitol or poorly planned events will not help matters at all.
The event last week is a perfect example. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that a pro 2A event on the anniversary of a mass shooting incident WILL be spun in a negative light, especially when Bloomberg dolts are involved.

We are not fighting stupid people here. Ignorant, arrogant, ill informed and less than truthful yes, but not stupid. They know exactly how to spin the media in their favor and how to make the pro 2A organizations appear minimalist. Don't forget, after BHO and crew saw their anti agenda go down in flames a couple months ago he vowed to "go in full campaign mode" to push his agenda.
That was exactly what Bloomies Bus Tour was all about. And we are going to see more of it.

We need to fight the smart, logical fight and stick with pure facts.
Let the loony lefties be the emotional drama mamas.

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Originally Posted by BPTactical

Better tactics.
Sure, fundraise. But your appearances before legislature/public need to be very well thought out and precisely planned.
Pissing matches with legislators in the capitol or poorly planned events will not help matters at all.
The event last week is a perfect example. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that a pro 2A event on the anniversary of a mass shooting incident WILL be spun in a negative light, especially when Bloomberg dolts are involved.

We are not fighting stupid people here. Ignorant, arrogant, ill informed and less than truthful yes, but not stupid. They know exactly how to spin the media in their favor and how to make the pro 2A organizations appear minimalist. Don't forget, after BHO and crew saw their anti agenda go down in flames a couple months ago he vowed to "go in full campaign mode" to push his agenda.
That was exactly what Bloomies Bus Tour was all about. And we are going to see more of it.

We need to fight the smart, logical fight and stick with pure facts.
Let the loony lefties be the emotional drama mamas.

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Well said Bert. Dudley, you paying attention?

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