If you had any doubt...

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Originally Posted by generalmeow

You're either a "tea partier", or you're a liberal.

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Originally Posted by ZERO THEORY

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Allow my to rephrase: you're either tea party, or you're fiscally liberal. I say that because only people who you would call tea partners actually support reducing the size and spending of government.

If that statement is incorrect, please tell me how. Give me an example of federal government spending and entitlements decreasing under republican control.

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Originally Posted by cstone

He is a proven fund raiser. For whatever reason, people seem to want to fund him and if you haven't already noticed, the most important ability needed to be The President of the USA is raise money. Know who has it and say what you need to to get the cash.

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I heard it was called "white guilt".

If they are going to get back pay anyway, why send them home in the 1st place?

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Originally Posted by generalmeow

Allow my to rephrase: you're either tea party, or you're fiscally liberal. I say that because only people who you would call tea partners actually support reducing the size and spending of government.

If that statement is incorrect, please tell me how. Give me an example of federal government spending and entitlements decreasing under republican control.

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Really? Then why do so many people, especially on this forum, like Ron Paul so much? He was neither. There are democrats in congress who are fiscally conservative. That either/or thing is just plain wrong.

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Originally Posted by theGinsue

And ^^this^^ is what it ultimately comes down to. Some of you can drink the liberal kool-aid and blame the GOP, but without holding the line against the unConstitutional and inaccurately named Affordable [Health] Care Act, the citizens of this country will continue to feel the total raping of their wallets and medical/financial privacy. If the POTUS & Democratic Senate actually listened to the will of the People like the GOP is trying to do, we wouldn't be in this mess.

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Well said.

Typical government, close the military food stores because the majority in Congress don't want some kind of health care laws? Maybe they should pass a law that requires inprisonment of the Congress , Senate and president when this happens. I'd certainly agree with this!

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Originally Posted by cstone

As Republicans and Democrats have done each and every one of the last 17 times the government was shut down.

Paying the non-essential federal employees for their non-scheduled vacations is a bipartisan issue. This time the Republicans got to it first. It is a PR move to show they are not holding the individual employees responsible for the failures of Congress and the President.

This is not about the shutdown or who will fix the country. This is about control. Either the President can lead and the Congress will follow, or someone else will step up and lead and the Congress will follow. I don't know about you, but I have never been impressed by President Obama's leadership ability.

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I just found out my health insurance is going up another $250 PER MONTH! $3000 a year!

Screw the Congress and if you voted for any one in the government that supported the ACA, screw you too you C*&ks%#g A$$H$^e!

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Originally Posted by wctriumph

I just found out my health insurance is going up another $250 PER MONTH! $3000 a year!

Screw the Congress and if you voted for any one in the government that supported the ACA, screw you too you C*&ks%#g A$$H$^e!

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Everyone that has ins is getting raped. That was one of the benefits that us lowlifes took the low pay but my part has gone from $160 to $450 per month in the last 3 years that our pay has been frozen. I have not looked at what it is going to be next year. Just like my homeowners ins that jumped 60%........