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The story will hit the loudmouth libtards. They will make a big ol shitstorm about how easy it is to make a gun that does not have to be registered, or background check, and how any idiot (their words) can make an ar-15. bla bla bla bla. The democraps will run with it and Obutthole will make 80% lowers a regular firearm. Just one scenario I see playing out.
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Originally Posted by colorider
hahah.. next thing you know, we must serialize every block of aluminum coming out of the smelters.
No, they'll just demand that only licensed manufacturers can make a firearm. Oh and you must be in the business to get a license, not a hobby. Oh and assembling a virgin lower is manufacturing.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChunkyMonkey
Don't give em any ideas....Quote:
Originally Posted by merl
Why would the business get names of people buying the lowers. Isnt the point of the 80 percent lowers to not have to give names. The customer would have to use a credit card.
Do you shop on Amazon? Do you have any affinity cards? You don't have to register or pass a background check to buy groceries either but you can bet King Soopers and Safeway are keeping track of what you buy if you have one of their affinity cards. Same goes for Starbucks or any other business -- MOST businesses I know like to keep in contact with previous customers and many like to keep track of what those customers bought so they can offer them more. Amazon and Google are masters of this. It's unconstitutional overkill for ATF to demand this info but silly to think the business wouldn't have a list of customers.Quote:
Originally Posted by dirtrulz
I'm still bothered by the description of the product. It sounds like an artificial evasion of the law and I wonder if they received or even sought a ruling from ATF before selling them as 80% receivers. If they got a letter in their favor before selling these then this is really overkill.
I have slightly more respect for the ATF than I do for the TSA. Slightly.
Ares is not the manufacturer of the lowers. They just sell them. EP Armory is the manufacturer. EP was also raided by the ATF.Quote:
Originally Posted by Punkface
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...w/#more-303849
At the last Tanner show, there was a guy selling these lowers in a kit. The polymer felt flimsy to me at the mag well, but it was an interesting concept. The trigger group area was a different color polymer and with the included bit, you just removed the different colored polymer with it until it was gone and you allegedly had the correct dimensions. I'm no expert (hell, I'm not even a novice) on polymers or how one would go about producing such a lower in that fashion, but I can see how someone might think they made the lower, then filled in the area with a different color as a means to produce this product.
From a manufacturing standpoint the atfs case doesnt make sense.