So I have a new idea for a "compromise"

My mom used to greet the Jehovah's Witnesses (no offense to any on this board) at the door wearing jeans (we understood women wearing pants versus dress/skirt is frowned upon), drinking a beer, smoking a cigarette, and her .38 snubbie tucked into her front waistband. They stopped coming by the 2nd time she did that.

I know the original post of this thread was hypothetical, but I think we can all agree that the effectiveness of Background Checks is questionable at best; it's more of just a nuisance to those of us who try to be law abiding citizens. The concept of the first post would require even FTF sales by individuals to be subject to BC's and, thus, would create a record of all sales/gun owners. This is something I'm very much against.

Just my $.02.

I agree, I don't like kids being shot, but none of these laws would change that, and I think crimes like that are just used as an excuse. They want us to be subjects, not citizens.

Wow, my last post here is kinda hanging out all by itself. I guess I was trying to make a point that we all know, and did a poor job of it. We all know gun laws don't work, we tolerate some, (background checks), knowing they are pointless, in the hope that our "compliance" will keep even dumber ones from showing up. Too bad they cant see I wont ever work.

It's late. There'll be responses tomorrow for sure. I agree with you. The BG's are always going to do what they want whether there are laws against it or not. Most of the laws do nothing more than put unnecessary (and often un-Constitutional) limits on the rights of the law-abiding.

Yeah, you're right, EVen if all transfers were subject to 4473's, there would still be plenty of illegally smuggled in guns from other countries.

Less restrictions...More training.

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Originally Posted by blackford76

Less restrictions...More training.

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Agreed. On another board, someone suggested that students in high school should be required to take a firearms safety course. No real guns (use the wacky plastic glocks) or live ammo, just a course to explain to young people how guns work and what to do when handling one.

As for the younger guys, the last place I worked had a large percentage of 20 something 'boys'. The sideways hats, underpants hanging out, 5 or 6 face piercings, 50 horse power hondas with 6" exhaust and wings, you get the idea. It took me almost 3 years, but almost every one of the now drive 3/4 ton turbo diesel 4x4's, know how to properly wear a hat, discovered belts, and I proudly consider them friends, and most importantly, RIFLEMEN. They now help with cleaning our local shooting areas, (even when I'm not with them) and most have even joined the NRA. I am very proud of them, but I can't/won't take all the credit. It is our responsability to 'train' these kids, because they are the ones who are going to change our future, not us. We need all the educated, responsible gun owners we can get, the younger the better.

the main thing is to start them early as your kids or you grandkids, and then they learn respect. as little ones they want to be like You.
As for High school.. in this day and age of PC'ness, I doubt it would ever fly unless you have a rural High in totally rural atmosphere.
When I went to High school we had an ROTC class for those that wanted to be apart of it. ( I wasn't)
But I and my brother and some friends did hunt with my principal and a couple teachers after school for quail, doves, rabbits etc.