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06-06-2014, 22:51
Great-Kazoo

Vote for which ever candidate you prefer, but vote. The D's BIG MONEY machine is doing the same here as VA. Is hick beatable, maybe, however his opponent has to receive a solid R voting block. If the same group of voters stays home as last election, because of not conservative enough. You may as well stay home this year and keep the D's in power.
06-06-2014, 23:09
KAPA

What is not to like about Kopp? Im being serious here.
06-06-2014, 23:15
68Charger

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Originally Posted by Bailey Guns

Kopp is the most conservative and best candidate available. I've already admitted I'm doubtful, at this point, he can beat Hickenlooper either. But I don't think that's the fault of the GOP or Kopp. There's no doubt Hickenlooper is a strong candidate but he's not invinceable. But it's not like the GOP can force someone who might be able to beat Hickenlooper to enter the race.

And there are others who constantly rail against the GOP putting forth the "most electable" candidate.

If you, and I, and all our friends get behind someone like Kopp and convince a few people each to vote for Kopp, and they convince a few people, he can beat Hickenlooper. But it isn't gonna happen by just predicting defeat and playing the "disenfranchised" victim. It's gonna take a lot of work.

Personally, I think it's too early to look at polls. I think you'll see Kopp becoming more and more popular. He won the top spot at the GOP assembly with little to no name recognition. He's been working hard on that in the months since.

Did Maes get outed as he did because the Dems waited for their voters to talk to their "friends"?

NO, the GOP was out smarted, out classed, and out strategized... They figured out how to beat him, came up with a strategy, and executed it... and the outcome was PATHETIC....
So figure out how to get the base energized, find a good candidate for them to get behind and... get them fired up! you can either do that by making the opposition look like a total corrupt tool, or you can get them excited over something your candidate stands for... but the GOP has been a total FAIL at these tactics..,.

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Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo

Vote for which ever candidate you prefer, but vote. The D's BIG MONEY machine is doing the same here as VA. Is hick beatable, maybe, however his opponent has to receive a solid R voting block. If the same group of voters stays home as last election, because of not conservative enough. You may as well stay home this year and keep the D's in power.

Just a solid R voting block won't win here... look at the numbers... Colorado is roughly 1/3 D, 1/3 R, and 1/3 "unaffiliated" (the other parties are just noise)
YOU MUST win the unaffiliated... (I'm unaffiliated, and I haven't been convinced)... and I'm totally unwilling to vote for Hick- most UA aren't so inclined, you MUST convince THEM!!!!

ugh, it's as if the GOP learned exactly Jack and shit from the last elections, and Jack left town... (sigh)
06-07-2014, 06:44
sroz

I am one of those Independent voters & although none of these candidates excite me, I plan to vote anyone but Hick. In my opinion, Jim is absolutely right. If you sit home because your "R" candidate did not win, we lose. Yes, we need to get the "I" vote, but will that really matter if many of you Repubs stay home? I don' t need a perfect candidate to support. Hick & what has occurred in this state is enough to motivate me to go out and vote...against Hick.
06-07-2014, 07:03
Singlestack

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Originally Posted by Bailey Guns

Personally, I think it's too early to look at polls. I think you'll see Kopp becoming more and more popular. He won the top spot at the GOP assembly with little to no name recognition. He's been working hard on that in the months since.

Very true. The big money is spent after the primary. The new faces won't poll well against hick right now since they don't have the name recognition, and haven't spent the $$ to get recognition. Lots of time after the primary to get the word out. I'm not worried, but plan to vote Kopp. In the general, I'll vote for whoever has the R next to their name.
06-07-2014, 07:08
Bailey Guns

You don't have to win all the unaffiliated voters. You just have to win a bit more than the other guy in CO. Especially since Rs still have a registration advantage. What you have to do is get your people to vote.
06-07-2014, 08:27
Hound

I consider myself one of those unaffiliated. There are actually two things to consider here 1) getting people to vote and then 2) getting them to vote for your side. I will not vote for Hick but I will also will not vote for Tancredo. With unaffiliated, it is somewhat like they have two votes. If they don't vote at all niether side gets an advantage where a D/R would have only voted for their side anyway. If they do vote, the side they voted for not only got their vote, they also got one that otherwise may not have been counted in the first place. The R's have to put somebody up that at least half +1 of the unaffiliated can stomach. They have to be conservative Right wing enough for the base but not seen as an unreasonable Right wing nut for the rest.
06-07-2014, 09:09
HoneyBadger

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Originally Posted by 68Charger

So figure out how to get the base energized, find a good candidate for them to get behind and... get them fired up! you can either do that by making the opposition look like a total corrupt tool, or you can get them excited over something your candidate stands for... but the GOP has been a total FAIL at these tactics..,.

Yep. I seriously wonder where the Colorado GOP is getting their planning and strategy ideas from...

I sure hope Kopp wins the primary, but the Colorado GOP is already running ads for Beau. [facepalm]

Back on topic, I voted for Tancredo last time because the GOP screwed us (surprise!). This time, Tancredo won't get my vote.
06-07-2014, 11:29
brutal

The cat is sitting on my ballot. When she gets up, whatever butthole shitstain is selected will be my vote.

haha

j/k

Haven't really decided yet because I haven't had the time to do my own research.
06-07-2014, 13:31
Zundfolge

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Originally Posted by KAPA

What is not to like about Kopp? Im being serious here.

Really the only thing not to like about Kopp is that he's not a household name ... however THAT may actually be his saving grace. Sure nobody outside of conservative and Republican circles knows him, but that means nobody outside of conservative and Republican hates him either.

Once the primary is over we all need to get behind the winner no matter who it is (yes, even Tancredo or Beauprez) because any of these guys will be better than Hickenlooper (and honestly none of them are "Dan Maes" or "Chris Christie" bad).

If Hickenlooper wins the gun laws he signed will be carved in stone, we'll never get rid of them (unless we're unGodly lucky in court). Period. Also the left will be so empowered by his victory it will be as though the recalls never happened and they'll go into leftard destruction overdrive (so you can forget ever having a good business environment or inexpensive utilities ever again).

A Hickenlooper win is likely the permanent Californication of Colorado.

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