Conservatives love guns, but they aren’t the ones shooting people

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Originally Posted by HoneyBadger

Well, whatever they are doing is apparently working if you really think they are centrist.... [facepalm]

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Exactly. Actual scholarly studies that looked at the slant of the media show that out of the 20 major news outlets in this country, 18 of them are far to the left of the average member of congress, except for Fox and I think the Washington Post. The Fox News news bureau is actually slightly left of center. Please note that this is the news on Fox News, not color commentary and editorials for those that can't figure out there is a difference.

CNN is one of the news outlets that their news content is left of center, though not as bad as MSNBC.

I think you mean the Wall Street Journal, not the Washington Post. The Washington Posts's news coverage has been left of center since at least the Nixon administration and probably the Kennedy administration.

The WaPo is as far left as CNN and the NYT. The Washington Times is the more centrist paper in DC.

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Originally Posted by Ridge

Politics almost never has anything to do with mass shootings, so it's pointless to stroke one's self over not being registered to a political party while doing so.

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Really? Never?
-Nidal Hasan – Ft Hood Shooter: Reg­istered Democrat and Muslim.
-Seung-Hui Cho – Virginia Tech shooter: Wrote hate mail to President Bush and to his staff, registered Democrat.
-James Holmes – the “Dark Knight”/Colorado shooter: Registered Democrat, staff worker on the Obama campaign, #Occu­py guy,progressive liberal, hated Christians.
-Jared Loughner, the Tucson shooter – Leftist, Marxist.
-Harris and Klebold, the Columbine Shooters – families registered Democrats and progressive Leftists.
-Bill Ayers, Weather Underground bomber – Leftist Democrat.
-Lee Harvey Oswald, Socialist, Communist and Democrat – killed Kennedy
Tell me again who is more likely to kill many when they can't cope with society... Oh, and explain Chicago. That is a mostly Democrat city, mostly democrats are these "low-income" gang bangers.

Ronin -- Much as it pains me to defend Ridge, his statement was that politics almost never has anything to do with the SHOOTINGS, not the shooter. Seung-Hui Cho's rampage didn't appear to be politically motivated. Neither did James Holmes' or Columbine.

Bill Ayers is scum but not accused of mass SHOOTINGS to the best of my knowledge. The Kennedy assassination is not generally regarded as a MASS shooting.

Then again, I think Ridge was deflecting the discussion by talking about shootings rather than shooters since the title of the post was clearly talking about shooters.

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Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter

Ronin -- Much as it pains me to defend Ridge, his statement was that politics almost never has anything to do with the SHOOTINGS, not the shooter. Seung-Hui Cho's rampage didn't appear to be politically motivated. Neither did James Holmes' or Columbine.

Bill Ayers is scum but not accused of mass SHOOTINGS to the best of my knowledge. The Kennedy assassination is not generally regarded as a MASS shooting.

Then again, I think Ridge was deflecting the discussion by talking about shootings rather than shooters since the title of the post was clearly talking about shooters.

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You last sentence, yes... however, his quote clearly said it has nothing to do with mass shootings... but the mental state, anger, hatred, and motivations of the shooter actually have quite a lot to do with the shooting. Sure politics doesn't motivate WHO to shoot, but it could very well motivate WHY.

Not even Stretch Armstrong could back up your claim Ronin.

I look at someone like Tim McVeigh and what he did as clearly politically motivated. Obviously politically motivated and obviously extremely right wing. It's hard to see that Holmes or Cho or Lanza were politically motivated as extreme leftists to do what they did. And I think Hassan had religious, not political, motivations, regardless of which party he was registered in.