Militia takes over Malheur National Wildlife Refuge headquarters TAKE 2

I can share later tonight, but I was sent a link by an army buddy of mine who we share veteran related things back and forth, and the article he sent me was a huge expose (so to speak) about how most of the "Patriots" doing this and the Bundy ranch thing, claim to be former military, but actually are not. Its things like this, and crazy anti-federal guys that hurt the cause. I'm all for civil disobedience if done right. Each time something like this comes up I can't help but think "Oh great, another stand-off that hurts us more than helps us." Just my .02

Is this the same article with the removed videos of them crying and taking donation money to go to the bar?

I don't know how many of you follow This Ain't Hell but they've been all over this story. While there are some bonafide veterans there are also more than a few fakers, embellishers and other loudmouthed idiots.

http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=63854

http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=63837

http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=63790

http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=63663

Keep in mind, This Ain't Hell is about as right wing as you can get.

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Originally Posted by davsel

I've never herd of Rex before, but what I got out of this particular video seemed uninformed lecturing from a couple of self-important "dudes."

The men in Oregon are not arguing over the 2nd Amendment, as Rex is so concerned. Rex does not agree, fine, but don't lecture to the men willing to put their lives on the line for something they have lived for some time, and have decided to take a stand against a government that has been encroaching on their lives for years and picking up momentum. Rex could have at least gotten a bit better informed concerning the back story and history of the ongoing conflict in Oregon and throughout the West before pontificating on the subject.

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Unless you have heard something different the story I keep getting from the Hammonds and other Oregonians is that they do not want the Bundys or anybody else taking over government buildings in their name as a show of support. The Hammonds had their day in court, which is what they wanted.

I can't think of a group of armed individuals that took over a U.S.
Federal Building in protest that then proved their point and got their way.

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Originally Posted by MOLON LABE

Unless you have heard something different the story I keep getting from the Hammonds and other Oregonians is that they do not want the Bundys or anybody else taking over government buildings in their name as a show of support. The Hammonds had their day in court, which is what they wanted.

I can't think of a group of armed individuals that took over a U.S.
Federal Building in protest that then proved their point and got their way.

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The Bundy group are protesting much more than just the Hammond's case, and I believe the locals are under a bit of duress considering who their sheriff is.

Libs have had sit-ins for decades - often getting what they want.

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Originally Posted by davsel

The Bundy group are protesting much more than just the Hammond's case, and I believe the locals are under a bit of duress considering who their sheriff is.

Libs have had sit-ins for decades - often getting what they want.

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If it goes well and they get what they want great! If it ends in bloodshed and defeat what then?

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Originally Posted by MOLON LABE

If it goes well and they get what they want great! If it ends in bloodshed and defeat what then?

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Unknown. Could have any number of results.

So now, the County Fire Chief is resigning after discovering undercover FBI agents posing as militia members and snooping around the County Armory.

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Judge Grasty, also a county commissioner, along with Sheriff Dave Ward, are the county officials who have been promoting the community fear and telling the community about the dangerous militia.

When Chief Briels told Judge Grasty about the undercover FBI agents posing as militia, the fire chief was told to shut up and back off. Fire Chief Briels told Judge Grasty he would not keep quiet and he was going to tell the public what was happening.

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Good explanation why the locals are not openly siding with the Bundys.
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/...s/#more-111022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=SB6m7x3QDAg

Kinda makes a guy wonder if the government is trying to provoke something.

Yes! We the people own the land. See the tenth amendment.

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Originally Posted by wctriumph

All of that land that is called government land is really supposed to be public land held in trust for the citizens of the United States of America for the use of the citizens. It is supposed to managed in a responsible manner to allow for varied use by the citizens. The politicians appoint managers and the managers manage the land according to the wishes of those that gave them their job of managing these lands held in trust for all of us. It has become a broken system run by corrupt bought and paid for politicians.

The special interest groups or persons pay off the politicians to get what they want and we, the good people pay our money to lawyers to sue over the wrongdoing to make it right for all, then someone gets another bribe and we start all over again.

Remember Barstow to Vegas and the Phantom Duck of the Desert!

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