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If the HPA is passed more company's will be making suppressors, which will bring the price down, then company's will have to refine sound reduction, size, manufacturing process and get caught up with technology to be able to compete and stay in business. It's a win win!
Check out what they are doing overseas where you can just walk in and buy one.
https://www.oceania-defence.com/supp...20-samson.html
Check out there entire suppressor line! They are pretty impressive and still being refined!
Because there is no legitimate reason any hunter or Fudd would need something like this.[facepalm]Quote:
Originally Posted by .455_Hunter
I'm positive that I'll be using a suppressed muzzleloader for elk season next year.Quote:
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I'm aiming for a lightweight Kimber Mountain Ascent in .30-06 with an Omega suppressor for rifle elk season next year.
https://assets.americanrifleman.org/...ain-Ascent.jpg
The tactical implications of an infantry battalion with suppressed rifles is more fascinating to me than the speculation on removing silencers from NFA of '34.
Yeah, I'm wondering what you combat vets think of this, other than it'll save your hearing.
There are so many factors that it is really hard to say.Quote:
Originally Posted by GilpinGuy
Since the m4/m16 is a DI system, this might make things worse in the long run for any protracted firefights they find themselves in, a la dirtier internals. I hope they do extensive testing in this regard to know how it affects things before they get into a situation.
It would be great for OP's or anywhere the quieter report would be a tactical advantage. The extra length on the barrel will need to be compensated for by entry teams in an urban environment, and I hope they run these on M4's cus a 20" barrel m16+suppressor would be cumbersome -- under the impression the Corps has gone to m4's for the grunts so that's good.
Anyone mounted who dismounts and then re-mounts into a vehicle will need to be extra careful if they get into a firefight while dismounted. They'll learn quickly that a hot can touching your leg, etc. = "Hi, Doc." They should know this due to the barrel already being a factor in this regard, but a can presents a bigger surface to potentially touch.
It would be good for them to train on both suppressed and unsuppressed, with a knowledge base on quickly rezeroing if they get a baffle strike and need to remove it and continue fighting.
This most likely takes fixed bayonets out of the equation, but I have no idea if they ever actually fix them -- unlikely.
It will be interesting to see if the tactical advantage of quieter fire for grunts has any contra indicators like less fear in the enemy due to loss of the psychological aspect of a loud firefight.
Very interested to hear from former Marine grunts on how they think this is a plus or minus based on Marine Infantry TTPs.
Yeah, my first concerns were how it would affect their weapons. Not only will they likely get dirtier, but they'll also get much hotter.Quote:
Originally Posted by CavSct1983
...but I have to admit that I'd like to see the suppressor that would fit a .50 cal M2. [rockon]
If I were ISIS, dying in silence from hundreds of yards away without accomplishing any of my terror goals or contributing to the fight would be my worst fear. Silent killers are a serious psychological operation all on their own.