Trump says he'd have attacked school shooter

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Originally Posted by buffalobo

What would be a good point "in the other guy" from last election? I sure as hell can't find one. I can point out plenty of Trump flaws but can find no good whatsoever of any kind in "the other guy".

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There was something he was doing to encourage people to buy houses that really helped me when we bought our first house. I don't even remember what it was (I think a rebate of some sort) and I think it could have been argued as a bad idea as far as encouraging people who couldn't really afford to buy a house to take out a mortgage (a la 2008 collapse) but it was still a good deal and I still took advantage of it.

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Originally Posted by Irving

There was something he was doing to encourage people to buy houses that really helped me when we bought our first house. I don't even remember what it was (I think a rebate of some sort) and I think it could have been argued as a bad idea as far as encouraging people who couldn't really afford to buy a house to take out a mortgage (a la 2008 collapse) but it was still a good deal and I still took advantage of it.

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Wasn't last election Trump v Hitlery?

If you're unarmed, you are a victim

Oh a good point for Hillary? Without taking a few hours to think about it, I would offer a snarky remark along the lines of increased pantsuit sales.
Honestly, it's a lot more tough to find good points for someone who never made it into office to actually accomplish anything.

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Originally Posted by Gman

The people are getting tired of the establishment candidates on both sides. The challenger on the D side was stopped because Hillary had completely bought control of their system for determining the party candidate. On the R side, Trump completely steamrolled an impotent organization that gives us RINOs and tired candidates because 'it's their turn' (remember Bob Dole? Great man, not a great presidential candidate).

If Trump continues to get the economy humming, voters can manage to overlook the things they don't like about him. I do appreciate him exposing the media bias. I don't care for his sometimes juvenile Tweets, but I also think he knows how to get what he wants by triggering his opposition.

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And by steamrolling he demonstrated he was going to fight and not be a "good loser" (controlled opposition). People actually like those tweets even if they didn't always agree with the content.

As I keep saying... Results matter. If Trump implements any new gun control he is a one termer. If this was a careful calculation with offsetting support for breaking his base, maybe he would be playing that 4D chess. Gun control won't win him any support from Libs who want him dead. Not even a "thank you." But it will cost him dearly.

This betrayal won't be overlooked or forgotten. It has been damn hard to be a Trump supporter and stand up to Libs. Many of us have lost friends, had difficulties with family, and troubles at work too. All with 95% neg media coverage. Every day being told you were an idiot for voting for Trump. It took that amount of strength for him to win.

If he stabs us in the back, he's done saving any major bombshell that is worse than this. I think the smart people in the WH have done this math.

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Originally Posted by Skip

Many of us have lost friends, had difficulties with family, and troubles at work too. All with 95% neg media coverage.

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There's a reason that you don't discuss politics or religion. If you're discussing politics at work, you had better know your audience. I have co-workers that hunt and we've discussed firearms. They even come to me when they're considering a CCW purchase to discuss (which we do discretely). I've been at the company for 19 years and this audience can be counted on one hand with a couple of fingers left over.

Politics is a strategic game. If you ever watched Ron Paul you'd get it. Trump seems willing, but knows it won't happen.

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Originally Posted by Gman

There's a reason that you don't discuss politics or religion. If you're discussing politics at work, you had better know your audience. I have co-workers that hunt and we've discussed firearms. They even come to me when they're considering a CCW purchase to discuss (which we do discretely). I've been at the company for 19 years and this audience can be counted on one hand with a couple of fingers left over.

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Good post, I agree.

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Originally Posted by Irving

Oh a good point for Hillary? Without taking a few hours to think about it, I would offer a snarky remark along the lines of increased pantsuit sales.
Honestly, it's a lot more tough to find good points for someone who never made it into office to actually accomplish anything.

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You think there would be good points if she got into office? If there were it would be accidental and far outweighed by the horrible points.

If you're unarmed, you are a victim

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Originally Posted by foxtrot

You got to hand it to Obama... he did some phenomenally good unintentional work in the field of gun sales and firearm rights. [Coffee]

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True dat.

But terribly outweighed by the bad.

The best thing he did was turn Mrs bo away from Dem party, only small draw back is she is "Huuuuuge" Trump supporter.

If you're unarmed, you are a victim

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Originally Posted by Gman

There's a reason that you don't discuss politics or religion. If you're discussing politics at work, you had better know your audience. I have co-workers that hunt and we've discussed firearms. They even come to me when they're considering a CCW purchase to discuss (which we do discretely). I've been at the company for 19 years and this audience can be counted on one hand with a couple of fingers left over.

Politics is a strategic game. If you ever watched Ron Paul you'd get it. Trump seems willing, but knows it won't happen.

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They bring it up with you and will even corner you in your own cube as you're trying to work. They've been told to get in everyone's face. They will even coordinate trips to HR.

Or you get called into a team meeting and the leader tells a joke about Conservatives or Christians. You're in the minority of people who aren't laughing.