This catch and release bullshit is exactly what’s going on here in Albuquerque and it’s getting really old really fast. Unless you get a DWI then it’s like an instant 50k.
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This catch and release bullshit is exactly what’s going on here in Albuquerque and it’s getting really old really fast. Unless you get a DWI then it’s like an instant 50k.
I understand all the crap you dealt with when it involved questionable LE, the judicial system etc. Having been as a youth on the wrong side of the law, i know one is only as guilty or innocent as the lawyer you can afford. As well as get the right judge.Quote:
Originally Posted by foxtrot
Sure the system is rigged, aren't they all.
That's been going on since the judicial system has been around. But to say No Bail and actually believe people will show up in court is a pipe dream.
Having/not having money shouldn't factor into it. It should be based on flight risk. And if you follow high profile bond/bail you'll notice judges set the amounts higher for defendants who have money to create incentive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric P
CA is a state full of illegals who would have no incentive to return for trial. They are effectively removing the consequences by completely eliminating bail/bond. Even if petty. They are going to be turning loose a ton of theft (identity and physical) suspects who are free to go out and victimize more taxpayers.
This change isn't for the benefit of the avg Joe hard working guy who gets caught up on a minor charge. It's for the criminal illegal underclass that is exploited for political power.
It's reverse Broken Windows. And they know it.
Sounds similar to police departments report crime less, to look as if there is less crime in their districts. Stuff like this seems rational under ideal circumstances, but are often instituted at the wrong time.
Get real, it is harvest time. Somebody has to bring in the crops from the fields. The peasants feed the powers that be, same as ever. California is the fifth largest economy in the world.
That massive chip on your shoulder is really weighing you down, foxtrot.
I know how the system works. I've been on both sides. I've been falsely accused and sued for $17 million. It's not perfect, I'll concede that. This isnt the way to fix it.
The overwhelming majority of people jailed are given bail according to a set bail schedule. And many of those people are subsequently released on their own recognizance if they're in jail long enough to see a judge.
I have to agree 100% with this. I just read about a case where a poor woman went to court for something. She could plead guilty immediately with a thousand dollar fine and probation costs. Or her nonrefundable bail + other costs just to go to trial was even more money she did not have. She was almost assuredly innocent as she had proof of identity theft, but could not afford to prove it. And now has a criminal record.Quote:
Originally Posted by foxtrot
As much as we hate people getting away with things when they're guilty, poor people are absolutely fucked over all the time. My uncle spent years in jail because he was boned by the system and couldn't afford to defend himself. That was thirty years ago, and his life is still completely screwed over by it.
Is that 5-10% what you pay the bail bondsman? Because if that's the case the state can weasel out of that by claiming that no, you borrowed the money at interest, so its not taken by them, its taken by the bail bondsman (an independent contractor) and if you'd just pay the full bail yourself you'd have gotten it all back.Quote:
Originally Posted by foxtrot
Like it or not that's the fee bondsmen charge for their service. I'm not defending bondsmen but that's the reality.
And in regards to ChadAmbergs post, I've never heard of non refundable bail. The bondsmen fee isnt refundable but bail should be.