Rick Villa is the hero Colorado Spring Deserves

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Originally Posted by Gman

On our vacation to Moab and driving around Garden of the Gods, I noticed signs that said cars had to give cyclists 3+ feet of space, on roads that were a single lane in either direction with a double solid line divider. In order to accommodate that, one would either have to go the speed (or lack thereof) of the bicyclist, or violate the center line. That's nuts.

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I thought that 3 feet is the minimum apace you have to give them under CO state law when passing them.

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Originally Posted by Irving

Why wouldn't you give a cyclist space? Crossing the solid yellow is only an issue if there is oncoming traffic. It's the same thing as passing a tractor.

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The road he is referring to is most likely 30th street. It does suck as garden of the gods is a total mess with everyone going there. The. You add heavy bicycle traffic and you are stuck. It?s a winding 2 lane road with no shoulder.

I give them ample room myself. Never know what they will do. :)

To be fair, there aren't a ton of tractors cruising down mountain roads all the time.

Even tractors in farm country don?t have the volume or stupidity of cyclists in the metro & suburban areas in Colorado...... It is a miracle that there is not a higher volume of vehicle -vs- cyclist accidents.
And I have spent a few decades in rural JoCo. KS.

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Originally Posted by whitewalrus

The road he is referring to is most likely 30th street. It does suck as garden of the gods is a total mess with everyone going there. The. You add heavy bicycle traffic and you are stuck. It?s a winding 2 lane road with no shoulder.

I give them ample room myself. Never know what they will do. :)

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What really pisses me off about that is that there is a hiking/biking trail 20' away from where I normally encounter the cyclists on the road on 30th St.

It doesn't matter what inconvenience or hazard they create for others so long as their spandex'd asses get what they want.

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Originally Posted by theGinsue

What really pisses me off about that is that there is a hiking/biking trail 20' away from where I normally encounter the cyclists on the road on 30th St.

as their spandex'd asses get what they want.

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Clearly they got your attention, sailor ;)

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Originally Posted by Irving

Why wouldn't you give a cyclist space? Crossing the solid yellow is only an issue if there is oncoming traffic. It's the same thing as passing a tractor.

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Not even close. Bicycles are recreational, almost every tractor cruising down the road contributes to someone's livelihood.
Add to that that most of the people encountering tractors understand and appreciate their purpose.

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I don't think "car" is required for commuting. Some people actually bike places just to keep in better shape. Some people actually need to bike to work. I think it's important not to confuse your distaste for certain bicyclists with the method of transport. E.g. the attitude is no different than people parking Diesel trucks in tesla super-charger spots just to block an EV from charging simply because...

...they don't like the politics of a portion of certain people who drive EV's.

I assume you were just responding to the comparison to tractors, and not arguing against giving cyclists space. At least, I would hope so. At any rate, it's as silly to say people shouldn't be allowed to bike as it is to say we should take out lanes on existing roads to worsen traffic to require people to bike.

I can't remember passing a tractor in a no-passing zone.....ever. I did get stuck behind an out of state RV last weekend that couldn't seem to make a twist in the highway at over 30mph.

Not a good argument. A large percentage of my driving could be considered recreational and not contributing to anything.