Morality Question: Am I being an ass?

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Originally Posted by FoxtArt

Another example: gas station puts the decimal in the wrong stop. Tons of dicks line up to get 90% discounted gas, they self justify it as a deal. YET, compare to a different situation. A man has a hole in his pocket and a dollar bill falls out about once every fifteen seconds. Do you follow him around town, covertly picking each dollar up, and call it a "deal", and call your friends to follow him when you get tired? Similar circumstances. Those that fail this basic ethics test are often the shittiest candidates for friends.

PS...I have encountered this, and I did IMMEDIATLEY notify the station. It's been ~20 years ago. Utterly disgusting the lines of selfish opportunists. If they'll do it there, they'll 100% do it anywhere they think there.is no risk of consequences (and that is all that it boils down to... )

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But that isn't what happened here.................... People were buying primers and paying full price for them, along with regular shipping. But that is the issue here, Hazmat wasn't charged.
I'll say this again......
The company charged and got the full price they were asking for................ they didn't lose money that way.
They charged and got regular shipping............they didn't lose money that way.
The only question was that they didn't charge HAZMAT..............so the boxes got shipped "regular" and not "Hazmat."

Now, unless the guy who complained to them about this also called the "hazmat police" nothing happened on that end.
No planes crashed....... no arrests made.......... nothing.

What DID happen is the buyers saved the hazmat fees that they would've paid.


Ginsue:
Good points.............. well said.

Ok..........how about I give you another example of me being an ass or not?

So I go into a small gas station in the Mtns. While I'm filling up, I buy a few things.
The guy rings me up and asks if I want a bag.......... and at first I say no, but then realize I'll use it as a trash bag, so say yes.
By then it's rung up............ but as he is stuffing my crap in said bag....... I say, "give me a sec, I've got a dime in my center console."
(Of course referring to the CO State law about being charged a dime for the bag).
He says something "......Don't worry about it.....something something......the store is exempt from that."............ and hands me my bag.
I pause, decide he knows whats best for him and his store, and go on my merry way.

It sounds like I committed theft? Or should've placed the dime on the counter? Called the owner? Called the State?

And the question of morality was to whether or not saying something to the guy that notified the company of their deficiency was being an asshole, not whether notifing the company was moral.

If you're unarmed, you are a victim.

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Originally Posted by Oscar77

Ok..........how about I give you another example of me being an ass or not?

So I go into a small gas station in the Mtns. While I'm filling up, I buy a few things.
The guy rings me up and asks if I want a bag.......... and at first I say no, but then realize I'll use it as a trash bag, so say yes.
By then it's rung up............ but as he is stuffing my crap in said bag....... I say, "give me a sec, I've got a dime in my center console."
(Of course referring to the CO State law about being charged a dime for the bag).
He says something "......Don't worry about it.....something something......the store is exempt from that."............ and hands me my bag.
I pause, decide he knows whats best for him and his store, and go on my merry way.

It sounds like I committed theft? Or should've placed the dime on the counter? Called the owner? Called the State?

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MYOB and move on.

JFC

If you have to ask if your being an asshole then you likely already know the answer.

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Originally Posted by Oscar77

Ok..........how about I give you another example of me being an ass or not?

So I go into a small gas station in the Mtns. While I'm filling up, I buy a few things.
The guy rings me up and asks if I want a bag.......... and at first I say no, but then realize I'll use it as a trash bag, so say yes.
By then it's rung up............ but as he is stuffing my crap in said bag....... I say, "give me a sec, I've got a dime in my center console."
(Of course referring to the CO State law about being charged a dime for the bag).
He says something "......Don't worry about it.....something something......the store is exempt from that."............ and hands me my bag.
I pause, decide he knows whats best for him and his store, and go on my merry way.

It sounds like I committed theft? Or should've placed the dime on the counter? Called the owner? Called the State?

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that you brought up this moronic example cements your ass status

Gents, be nice!

I'm enjoying this question and the thread. It helps me stay grounded and has reminded me of the right way to act.

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Originally Posted by theGinsue

Gents, be nice!

I'm enjoying this question and the thread. It helps me stay grounded and has reminded me of the right way to act.

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Right. But if ten cents is going to have you questioning IF you did the right thing. I'm gonna say, Owning a firearm for personal protection is not something one should do.

Obvious sarcasm on the 10c bag thing folks.... Which I'm also sure everyone noticed, it's a bit over the top.

I guess I didn't realize it was shipping regular without the hazmat fee. Ignoring that, is not akin to theft. There's some mild perceivable elevated risk of 1 in 10,000,000 if the common carrier truck caught fire, but the same trucks also carry the hazmat. As long as they don't have any density greater than what they would have, there is little difference once it's sorted and out. The regulations just have it labeled, and packed in stronger cardboard and bagged. In a fire, that won't do a bit of difference. Now what DOES matter, is the hazmat stuff they track and avoid having too many on a single truck. That is where it could be catastrophic in an accident (such as the truck picking up from the store itself and unknowingly transporting 200k primers...). So... it's a different situation on ethics insofar as the hazmat. The former aspects are not really a safety concern. The latter really is - that 1 in 1,000,000 chance of having an accident coming from the store with 200k primers on it, may not justify the saving. It's not theft, it's a mild increase of death in a very select circumstance. Mostly, I'd say that is a wash and I'd say NTA except where there is the desire to reach out to someone who does notify the company.

Side story: I used to sell powder and primers on 'broker, years and years ago. I was hazmat certified, posted pictures of the hazmat boxes, labels, and overwrap on the listing, etc.

Still had at least one utter retard (random public) contact me and complain saying I shouldn't be selling anything because they claimed "I wasn't shipping hazmat". (not a customer, but I was the ONLY seller on Gunbroker that listed as hazmat shipping and provided all the proof that I did). Like... wtf do some people think hazmat shipping is? Space suits and an armed military convoy?

That said, the original question was regarding the person who notified the company / as to whether they should STFU ( to that extent, some level of "TA" status would likely be earned) .