SSAR15 Bump Fire Stock

This device actually causes you to pull the trigger every time. So just because the device is there doesn't mean you are going to be fully auto with a trigger pull - and the trigger remains the device that fires the weapon. Wow. This is the first winner (ATF compliance) I've seen in all of the designs, including the Accellerator.

The ATF will have to do some SERIOUS tap-dancing around every other ruling they have ever made in order to deem this illegal.

320 is a hefty price though . . . I might have been tempted had it been a tad lower. Then, of course, I would have to build a rifle around it. Maybe a nice 2011 project for me . . .

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Originally Posted by steincj

The ATF will have to do some SERIOUS tap-dancing around every other ruling they have ever made in order to deem this illegal.

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Don't underestimate them. if the govt doesn't want you to have it, you won't have it.

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Originally Posted by JoeT

If someone's going to buy one, let me know. I'll give you the money to order one for me too. . . .I just don't want my name on a list somewhere when they come looking for them with their "Jack Boots" on

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hehe sure, that's 320 plus 500 S&H.

how bad do you not want to be on a list? [Tooth]

I found and read their ruling on the AA, and I see how they are going to apply the same rule to this device. The only difference I see here is that this device is actually pulling your hand open, as the trigger and the grip are moving in opposite directions. This means if you are not applying pressure to the trigger, or fail to apply enough pressure, you cannot force the trigger to activate. So there has to be a conscious effort to apply enough pressure to make the weapon fire again.

The ATF is going to maintain that applying a certain amount of pressure to the trigger will make the weapon fire until the ammunition is exhausted. And they will somehow make it stick. But this device is the most ingenious one to comply with the current rulings by the ATF. As this manufacturer will learn, it is hard to hit a moving target, and the exact ATF regulation for these types of devices is constantly on the move.

Maybe a bunch of us can get together with one of the businesses that are industry partners here and do group buy to lower the price.
Or a few of us go in on one and reverse engineer it to make a bunch of bootleg copies?
They sure look fun and more accurate than those old activator units. [AR15]

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Originally Posted by JoeT

If someone's going to buy one, let me know. I'll give you the money to order one for me too. . . .I just don't want my name on a list somewhere when they come looking for them with their "Jack Boots" on

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whoever bought it would rat you out in an instant if the ATF came pounding on their door wanting to confiscate it or offering sexy time with thunder-dick in prison.

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Originally Posted by steincj

320 is a hefty price though . . . I might have been tempted had it been a tad lower. Then, of course, I would have to build a rifle around it. Maybe a nice 2011 project for me . . .

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yet I consistently see UBR and PRS stocks on ARs. the price isn't that high...especially for the fun factor. what does the UBR and PRS really do?

I don't find the price that outrageous. I have UBR and PRS stocks myself, I would be more than happy to sell one of those, spend an extra $100 and have something awesome like this

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Originally Posted by SideShow Bob

Maybe a bunch of us can get together with one of the businesses that are industry partners here and do group buy to lower the price.
Or a few of us go in on one and reverse engineer it to make a bunch of bootleg copies?
They sure look fun and more accurate than those old activator units. [AR15]

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I would be in for 1

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Originally Posted by SideShow Bob

Maybe a bunch of us can get together with one of the businesses that are industry partners here and do group buy to lower the price.

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I'd be up for that.

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Originally Posted by SideShow Bob

Maybe a bunch of us can get together with one of the businesses that are industry partners here and do group buy to lower the price.
Or a few of us go in on one and reverse engineer it to make a bunch of bootleg copies?
They sure look fun and more accurate than those old activator units. [AR15]

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The other forum I'm on (Northeastshooters) has a group buy going and they are approx $250 for 20 and $200 for 60.

That forum is having difficulty getting to 20, mostly due to people being afraid that 6 months from now it'll be illegal and a waste of $250


I have 2 lowers in my safe waiting for another build. Maybe a SBR ????