30-Rnd magazine no-go in Denver?

When traveling to the range though Denver, I keep the ARs in cases unloaded. I keep 20 and 10-round mags in the gun case. If I get stopped and there is an issue, I just say I have 10 and 20-round mags and pull one out to show. I keep the 30-rounders hidden in another location. I have a minivan so I can't hide anything in the trunk. All stuff is visible through the window. However, it is obvious I am on the way to the range, because I have targets, target stands, and other range stuff in the back of the vehicle. The range is east of Denver and I live west of Denver, so I-70 is the only way to go without a major re-route.

Simple solution: Don't break the law while breakin' the law. [Tooth]

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Originally Posted by Graves

Simple solution: Don't break the law while breaking' the law. [Tooth]

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And hope nobody one the road with you breaks the law. Somebody else can break the law and involve you in an accident.

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Originally Posted by SAnd

And hope nobody one the road with you breaks the law. Somebody else can break the law and involve you in an accident.

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But what are the grounds to search a vehicle involved in an accident? If I'm not at fault that still doesn't mean Johnny Law can search my vehicle. Even if I AM at fault I don't think they can search unless drugs or alcohol are involved in impairing the driver. I've been in a few accidents and two at fault where the police didn't search the car or the driver at fault.

If you are injured, and your vehicle is impounded, they WILL search it (under the guise of "inventorying your property"). No warrant or consent required.

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Originally Posted by TFOGGER

If you are injured, and your vehicle is impounded, they WILL search it (under the guise of "inventorying your property"). No warrant or consent required.

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Not a "guise". Protection for the officer when you claim your $20,000 diamond ring was in the ashtray and it isn't there any longer, thus the officer must have stole it. Been down that road a ton of times with owners.

Admittedly, evidence found during inventories can and has been used against the owner of the vehicle.

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Originally Posted by OneGuy67

Not a "guise". Protection for the officer when you claim your $20,000 diamond ring was in the ashtray and it isn't there any longer, thus the officer must have stole it. Been down that road a ton of times with owners.

Admittedly, evidence found during inventories can and has been used against the owner of the vehicle.

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Perhaps "guise" was the incorrect word, no disrespect meant. I know there are scumbags that will claim their Rolex went missing from their 73 Datsun B210 while they were in the ambulance...[Rant1]. I also realize there is a safety factor in the event that say, the driver had something hazardous (think biological samples, volatile chemicals) that might be a concern if the vehicle is moved or stored.

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Doesn't the recent supreme court ruling strike down many of these laws. I am referring to the ban on handguns case in DC.

Jeeze, I gots nothing but 30-rd mags, guess I'm fucked. Of course, my AR and mags never get near Denver.....[Beer]

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Originally Posted by nynco

Doesn't the recent supreme court ruling strike down many of these laws. I am referring to the ban on handguns case in DC.

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Are you referring to Denver's 30 round magazine ban?



The Heller (DC) and McDonald (Chicago) cases basically did three things:

1) Affirmed that the Second Amendment confers an "individual" right to own and possess a firearm. No bans on commonly held firearms. (Heller)

2) Conferred that an individual has the right to keep an operable firearm in their home for self-defense. (Heller)

3) Conferred that the Second Amendment is incorporated under the "Due Process" clause of the 14th Amendment and is thus applicable to State and Local Governments. (McDonald)

So called "reasonable restrictions" were allowed in the Heller decision. Those potentially being firearms licensing and registration, Assault Weapon Bans, Hi-Cap Mag bans, machine gun bans, et cetera...

What it did not address was the "Bear" part of "Keep and Bear Arms".

What's coming down the pike now are getting rid of "unreasonable licensing schemes"; ones that are so prohibitive that the average Joe can't comply (like in NYC where it costs something like $300 every few years to keep up a pistol license), and "Shall Issue Concealed Carry" for places like Illinois and California.


So as you can see at this time these decisions will not affect the Denver Mag Ban. It's possible in the future we may see a suit against California's, or Massachusetts' AWB, but I think that's years off. Denver's small potatoes. Any effect on Denver's laws will come from a bigger case like California who's AWB is much more onerous.