arrrgggg , what the F*CK!!!!!

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Originally Posted by alxone

yes you are correct , but i was trying to educate by example . there have been plenty of days when no forum members show up but random people jump in only because they see someone else doing it . on a whole south site is a cleaner place and not just from my efforts . left hand is still a toilet .i might be a bit over zealous about trying to include folks but hey , you cant get people involved by not being excited about it. dont worry ill go back to keeping it to myself .you wont have to read it any more and the visitors to the forum who would not normally get involved can stay uninvolved .

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I wasn't saying for you to stop- I agree with you that your range clean up thread should be sticky for those interested in meeting up. I would love to get involved but my job gets in the way (and distance wise I'd love to just help out at Squaw) for mid-week days. I would love to go shoot with some of you guys and clean up at Squaw, but it would have to be a weekend... I hate people who trash places and out of the 5 people I ask nicely to bring out more than they brought in I get ignored by 4. But we can still try.
I wasn't trying to silence you at all, I think it's important to try to keep these places nice, not just so they don't shut them down, but also because it's hazardous to the environment. I'll gladly donate my time and brass to the cause, but can't do it during weekdays.

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Originally Posted by alxone

i now see why there is no clean up section on the forum . the best we can do is pick up more than we bring in and hope others do the same .

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Don't get me wrong, I do commend you for doing it. Just after a couple of incidents, I'll pick up what I left and maybe a bit more. But, that's it.

I have given up on trying to get others to do it.

Sadly, you're trying to piss on a forest fire. I fully support what you are doing but there are too many assholes fighting against us. I'm not talking about tree huggers, grouchy neighbors and the FS. I'm talking about the morons who trash the land, don't clean up after themselves and generally give shooting/off-roading a bad name.

There are still people who are trying to help. Take a look at the range clean up thread for some upcoming events.

I'd hate to see what you are doing go away because of a couple of bad encounters. Truth is that's everyday in the mountains. Guess ya gotta start somewhere.

Bummer... People are so fucking stupid some times. You are trying to solve a problem, and this is the prime reason all the outdoor ranges are being closed. I would not have abeen as cool as you and I kinda wish the hippie had set up camp down range...

Still proud of you alxone. But no good deed go unpunished...

It really blows that it was someone from this forum...

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Originally Posted by sbouslog

It really blows that it was someone that reads this forum...

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we met a family of shooters last week that was really nice and helped clean up. They had heard about the Squaw pass site from this very forum.
They were good people.

Sadly Al met some ass-mokeys that also read the forum.

some of us forget that its not only the forum members that we joke, bash and banter with everyday that read this.

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Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. .....

who went to the same range today?

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Originally Posted by MrPrena

Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. .....

who went to the same range today?

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i did not see any other forum members , but at the same time i left around 10 ... witch reminds me , one of the lanes in the back still has a shot up mini fridge that could not fit in the truck .

That is total BS!!! I wish I could say that I can't believe someone would do that, but sadly it doesn't surprise me. I've asked several people at the south site if they were going to clean up after themselves and some of them do so (I think just out of the guilt of being caught) and others just blow me off. I hate the fact that there are so many of us that always take out more than we brought in and that there are still more people out there that leave more than we can take. I for one appreciate what you have been doing out there, but I also understand that these two jack donkeys could have pushed you over the top. I hope that they see this thread and it somehow shows them how wrong they are for what they did, but they probably won't give a rat's rear end!

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Originally Posted by alxone

i did not see any other forum members , but at the same time i left around 10 ... witch reminds me , one of the lanes in the back still has a shot up mini fridge that could not fit in the truck .

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I will try to bring the truck up