So now that the government can prosecute you for not buying health insurace what is next?

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Originally Posted by cofi

i dont know why we couldnt do what the whole rest of the world does and offer free healthcare instead of this crazy shit

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Nothing is ever free, they pay for it one way or another. In general it's higher overall tax rates so everyone is paying for it whether the want and use it or not.

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Originally Posted by Ronin13

I've heard this before... but can't put my finger on it. Oh! That's right! Libtards constantly spew sh*t like this all the time. While no, any news outlet is not a great place to get full, factual information from, Fox is not the worst place (it's better than CNN). Tax treated normally or not, it's still a taxation for not having something and it is wrong. Now, aren't you supposed to be at Red Rocks right now for your hippy fest? [Coffee]

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Yes it is wrong, but you can not ever, in any way be prosecuted for disobeying. That is all I was saying.

As for which news station is the worst that is usually colored by your political beliefs. Libtards will say fox is the worst, conservatards say CNN in the worst. As a moderate I think they are all pretty equal is levels of bullshit and none of them are worth watching/trusting. It's all just about which agenda you buy into.

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Originally Posted by akumadiavolo

Yes it is wrong, but you can not ever, in any way be prosecuted for disobeying. That is all I was saying.

As for which news station is the worst that is usually colored by your political beliefs. Libtards will say fox is the worst, conservatards say CNN in the worst. As a moderate I think they are all pretty equal is levels of bullshit and none of them are worth watching/trusting. It's all just about which agenda you buy into.

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That's why I don't watch TV news. As far as I'm concerned, the two most unbiased news sources are The Economist and the Christian Science Monitor.

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Originally Posted by akumadiavolo

Yes it is wrong, but you can not ever, in any way be prosecuted for disobeying. That is all I was saying.

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ever and any way are pretty blanket statements

If there's a high level of noncompliance, some future congress will simply change that inconvenient non-prosecute clause as easily as they inserted it in the first place.

And it all started with this!!
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Originally Posted by akumadiavolo

I did far more research than that. I just found the quickest and easiest source I could find that had all of the important info, I had never even seen that article before I read it to see if it had the info I wanted. You can go find any number of other sources that say the same thing, it's the truth. If you can find a reliable source that contradicts it I will happily read and consider it.

And I don't know what world you live in, but telling people to actually do research and know what they are talking about is not "holier-than-thou", it's common sense. It no different than the "guns are bad" crowd that I am sure almost everyone here has to deal with. I just in general get sick of seeing people ranting about this and that when they clearly don't have the knowledge base to be talking about an issue.

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Let's see this in a hypothetical:

I am never due a refund. I write the taxman a check for thousands every year. That's my choice; I'd rather have bigger paychecks and settle up in April. Let's say I don't have health insurance. So in 2015 I write my annual check for the taxes I owe but say I withhold that additional 1% of my annual income that I now owe because I don't have an insurance policy. What you're saying is that the IRS gets that check and says, "Well, he didn't pay his ACA tax, but there's not anything we can do about it." So they just let it slide, because their hands are tied. Next year I do the same thing, with the same result and the government just has to write off me and everyone like me as effectively exempt from contributing to the national healthcare program. Is that really what you believe will happen?

If so, you have bigger problems than whether or not someone called you sanctimonious and used the definition instead of the word because he assumed you would just have to look it up.

Please, stop letting facts and information get in the way of hyperbole and fear mongering.

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Originally Posted by Circuits

ever and any way are pretty blanket statements

If there's a high level of noncompliance, some future congress will simply change that inconvenient non-prosecute clause as easily as they inserted it in the first place.

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Yes, but then that would be a different law then. And I don't usually tend to speculate about what could happen at some vague point in the future. Some future congress may also decide that farting in public is illegal, and I will consider that when and if it happens. For now I will stay in reality and deal with the info and law as it exists.

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Originally Posted by Teufelhund

Let's see this in a hypothetical:

I am never due a refund. I write the taxman a check for thousands every year. That's my choice; I'd rather have bigger paychecks and settle up in April. Let's say I don't have health insurance. So in 2015 I write my annual check for the taxes I owe but say I withhold that additional 1% of my annual income that I now owe because I don't have an insurance policy. What you're saying is that the IRS gets that check and says, "Well, he didn't pay his ACA tax, but there's not anything we can do about it." So they just let it slide, because their hands are tied. Next year I do the same thing, with the same result and the government just has to write off me and everyone like me as effectively exempt from contributing to the national healthcare program. Is that really what you believe will happen?

If so, you have bigger problems than whether or not someone called you sanctimonious and used the definition instead of the word because he assumed you would just have to look it up.

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Yep, that is pretty much what will happen. It's not what I believe, it's what I know. As I said, read the law and you may be able to see it for yourself.

And being sanctimonious has to do with trying to claim moral superiority. There is nothing about morals in play here so the word doesn't apply. Sorry.

I thought it was common knowledge that the IRS can't prosecute for this, but apparently not.

The important question is, does your unpaid health care tax roll over each year?