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Originally Posted by HoneyBadger

I've been thinking more and more lately about the possibility of heading East if I had to leave the fortress. It's a really tough one though, because when you look East, what do you see? Nothing. No water, no trees, no good soil for growing things, no protection from the wind, no mountains to hide in.

Best possible scenario: You have a plot of land that is stocked, defensible, and well away from everyone else. You see the sh*tstorm coming and you bug out before it even starts, avoiding the hysteria and panic of a million sheep/zombies in Denver. A few examples: if the military is fighting on US soil, if nuclear tensions are worse than the cuban missile crisis, if there is a national loss of utilities or shortage of a resource like gas or food, GTFO.

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Yup, me too. So find a place or places that have well water, and farms. There's plenty of good soil and places out East if you know where to look.

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Originally Posted by Omicron

Yup, me too. So find a place or places that have well water, and farms. There's plenty of good soil and places out East if you know where to look.

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I was hoping do keep the travel distance to less than 200 miles... but I certainly agree: If you go far enough East, none of those things are issues! The foothills of Kentucky/Tennessee would be awesome, but it would be nearly impossible to bug out there from here.

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Originally Posted by HoneyBadger

I was hoping do keep the travel distance to less than 200 miles... but I certainly agree: If you go far enough East, none of those things are issues! The foothills of Kentucky/Tennessee would be awesome, but it would be nearly impossible to bug out there from here.

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Sorry by "out East" I meant on the Eastern planes. There's plenty of places in Eastern CO and for that matter Kansas and Nebraska and Wyoming that have water and soil that will grow crops. Look at all the farming that happens out there. There's even places with some elevation if you look. Nothing like the mountains, but it's not all barren flatness either. Bears studying, something I've been meaning to do.

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Originally Posted by Omicron

Sorry by "out East" I meant on the Eastern planes. There's plenty of places in Eastern CO and for that matter Kansas and Nebraska and Wyoming that have water and soil that will grow crops. Look at all the farming that happens out there. There's even places with some elevation if you look. Nothing like the mountains, but it's not all barren flatness either. Bears studying, something I've been meaning to do.

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Sorry, I drive out Highway 94 from Colorado Springs toward Kansas every day and I start thinking that all of Southeastern Colorado looks like that... desert/prairie

My biggest concern about out East is that I don't know how to make an open field defendable, and the animals aren't as easy to stumble upon.

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Originally Posted by MB888

Once you achieved this, then go read Light Out and One Second After. [ROFL1]

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Yeap! [ROFL1][ROFL2]
After I finished the damn book I couldn't sleep for a couple of weeks!

Seriously though - you really want to think about where you're gonna go if SHTF. Prepping is not something that you do as a project (ie "ok, I'm gonna go buy this that and that, make some Bobs and i'm done"). Prepping is a LIFESTYLE.
Me and my budy we spent a lot of weekends driving all around CO looking for a good place where we're gonna go with our families if SHTF... After we found a good spot - we bought it. Didn't cost too much.. We also put two motor homes there (they are not drivable, we just use them as shelters).
Every time we can we bring more supplies there(secret spot not far from those motor homes) + stuff that we keep at home...
I keep about a month + supply at home for me and my wife.
This is really endless... It's gonna cost you some money to start but once you start you just buy little by little every other day.. :)
Anyway, the most important thing is - you START THINKING ABOUT IT!

P. S. Yes I am Nucking Futs like that.

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Originally Posted by dropped_71chevy

Remember that preparedness isn't really about the ending of society as we know it. As much as I love a good zombie flick, they're not the cause of my prepping.

What do you do if the power goes out for a few days? What if you're snowed in for a similar period of time? These are the types of situations that you should begin to prepare for. You can then begin to build from a week to a month to a year. Getting into longer periods of time though is going to cause issues with storage and transportation.

Bugging out, as fantastic as the idea can be, simply isn't reasonable for those of us without somewhere to actually go. Plan on staying with the ability to go mobile quickly and also figure out where you'd be going or it's going to be a rough time finding a camping spot.

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Are you telling me the zombies are not coming!??!

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Originally Posted by Irving

My biggest concern about out East is that I don't know how to make an open field defendable, and the animals aren't as easy to stumble upon.

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That is very true, but with a million people in the mountains (in theory) then the game is going to be beyond scarce up there too. You'll be better off with pronghorn and with small game like rabbits, and maybe the occasional Jackalope. ;)

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Originally Posted by Dr_Fwd

Yeap! [ROFL1][ROFL2]
After I finished the damn book I couldn't sleep for a couple of weeks!

Seriously though - you really want to think about where you're gonna go if SHTF. Prepping is not something that you do as a project (ie "ok, I'm gonna go buy this that and that, make some Bobs and i'm done"). Prepping is a LIFESTYLE.
Me and my budy we spent a lot of weekends driving all around CO looking for a good place where we're gonna go with our families if SHTF... After we found a good spot - we bought it. Didn't cost too much.. We also put two motor homes there (they are not drivable, we just use them as shelters).
Every time we can we bring more supplies there(secret spot not far from those motor homes) + stuff that we keep at home...
I keep about a month + supply at home for me and my wife.
This is really endless... It's gonna cost you some money to start but once you start you just buy little by little every other day.. :)
Anyway, the most important thing is - you START THINKING ABOUT IT!

P. S. Yes I am Nucking Futs like that.

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Actually, I'd say you're spot on. [Beer]

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Originally Posted by Dr_Fwd

Seriously though - you really want to think about where you're gonna go if SHTF. Prepping is not something that you do as a project (ie "ok, I'm gonna go buy this that and that, make some Bobs and i'm done"). Prepping is a LIFESTYLE.
Me and my budy we spent a lot of weekends driving all around CO looking for a good place where we're gonna go with our families if SHTF... After we found a good spot - we bought it. Didn't cost too much.. We also put two motor homes there (they are not drivable, we just use them as shelters).
Every time we can we bring more supplies there(secret spot not far from those motor homes) + stuff that we keep at home...
I keep about a month + supply at home for me and my wife.
This is really endless... It's gonna cost you some money to start but once you start you just buy little by little every other day.. :)
Anyway, the most important thing is - you START THINKING ABOUT IT!

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This is basically what I want to do, but I think I'm a little greener behind the ears and all that. A young couple with the high likelyhood of kids in the near future don't have a lot of money, but I was looking at some land out by Fairplay.. Maybe 10-20 acres that could also be used as a hunting cabin, relaxing getaway, prepping stash, etc. The only problem with that, is if the SHTF quickly (we're talking overnight chaos), we wouldn't be able to make it out in time and it would all be a loss...

ETA: Somewhere someone mentioned the idea of a prepping gated community... I love this idea, but it would take a lot of work to make it happen.