A serious question about the 2nd Amendment.

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Originally Posted by Ronin13

Yep, and oh look, BHO did the same thing (you can't deny it)... where is the subsequent DOJ avoiding the investigation? And where are the people screaming foul play on the Obummer Administration?

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Care to share the voter fraud? I don't like the guy either, but I try to deal in facts.

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Originally Posted by Melvin

Is there any documented evidence of where Americans have ever literally used the 2nd Amendment to defend the 2nd Amendment against an over reaching govt. State or Federal?

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Yes. The 2nd Amendment is frequently cited in New York gun law cases, but it is always rejected by their courts as a valid defense.

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Originally Posted by Ridge

Care to share the voter fraud? I don't like the guy either, but I try to deal in facts.

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There are lots of cases on both sides.

http://www.rnla.org/votefraud.asp

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Originally Posted by spqrzilla

This is the answer to the OP.

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The battle was about political corruption on various levels including voter fraud. However it had nothing to do with the infringement of 2nd Amendment rights

Battle of Athens (1946)

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The Battle of Athens (sometimes called the McMinn County War) was a rebellion led by citizens in Athens and Etowah, Tennessee, United States, against the local government in August 1946. The citizens, including some World War II veterans, accused the local officials of political corruption and voter intimidation. The event is sometimes cited by firearms ownership advocates as an example of the value of the Second Amendment in combating tyranny.[

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_...ens_%281946%29

The 2nd amendment was added because our founding fathers knew what government could do. That's why they made it.

The 2nd is about balance. How about whatever they ban from the citizens is also removed from every law enforcement agency arsenal across the country. Fed, state local. I can hear the hypocrite rats squealing already.

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Originally Posted by Ridge

Care to share the voter fraud? I don't like the guy either, but I try to deal in facts.

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There were 59 precincts across the nation where there was not a single vote cast for anyone except obummer. You may believe that was legitimate but I don't. Here in Aurora you can now vote at any precinct, not just the one you live in. The Dems bussed people to that poll where Hickenlooper, Bennet and another person I don't recall fed them pizza and soda. The city had expected 1500 voters and got over 7000 at that location. The city is 30 percent black but that location had 70% black voters in Nov.

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Originally Posted by Melvin

I know that. That was not the question. The reason for the question was if you are not willing to defend the very thing that affords you the tools to defend all else, doesn't that render you defenseless? You see The Founding Fathers were wise enough to recognize the perfidy that is inherent in the nature of man. Thus they realized there was only one way to keep the playing field reasonably level. However there was absolutely no way for them to ever conceive of a day in the future where unborn generations would shrink from the job of defending the country from the enemy within. They could legislate much, but intestinal fortitude was not on that list. I know of no other country where citizens have been handed on a platter a set of guaranteed rights and method to defend those rights yet all they want to do is talk it to death. In the entire history of mankind, no tyranny has ever been talked into defeat.

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I don't understand how you can be right on the mark with this statement, then come off as near brain dead in your very next comment.

I guess we are getting some odd new members lately.

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Originally Posted by Irving

I don't understand how you can be right on the mark with this statement, then come off as near brain dead in your very next comment.

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Could you quote the comment to which you refer. Is it within this thread or another?
Thanks