An actual real compromise that benefits both sides, and helps to reduce a real problem.

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Originally Posted by HBARleatherneck

cars kill 40,000 people a year. and we dont make people lock their cars in state approved garages. cars are even stolen frequently and used in crimes. for the children we should lock up cars.

if the guns are stored in your private vehicle or private home, that is secure enough. if the criminals obeyed the laws, then you wouldnt have to worry.

subsidize gun safes? so, we can borrow more money from china and force taxpayers to help us buy a safe? NO.

then comes the STATE mandated periodic checks at your home, to make sure you guns are locked up. of course if they had a list of all the guns you own, then they could see if they were all locked in the safe. or they will just have to search your entire property searching for any unlocked guns. NO

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It IS a crime to leave your car running unattended. It allows ready and immediate access to someone who would choose to steal it.

When I'm not at home, my bedside gun is in my glovebox or center console.

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Originally Posted by Ridge

And where are they when you aren't home?

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still next to my bed, depending where I went (short term)

If they can get past both my bitch of a greyhound and my great dane, they deserve the gun.

Here's an idea... pretend my locked house is a safe.

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Originally Posted by Ridge

We all agree that the majority of gun crime comes from guns that were stolen from law abiding owners.

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Statistically speaking, this would be incorrect. Although some high profile cases in the news have pointed out that the firearm used had been stolen or taken from a family member, the majority of firearm violence isn't from stolen firearms.

I agree with gun owner responsibility and I do keep mine secured BUT I don't need the government to be part of that equation.

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Originally Posted by kidicarus13

Here's an idea... pretend my locked house is a safe.

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Yep, last time I checked it is illegal to enter my house without my permission.

This is about the least useful idea I've heard yet. Now if you have a criminal or crazy person living with you it should be required.

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Originally Posted by Gman

The devil is in the details. Whenever the government is the watchdog, it's another way to infringe. If your guns are in your home, how is that not enough control?

If the guns are stolen, put the efforts towards going after the criminals doing the stealing.

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Yup

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Originally Posted by Sharpienads

I think its a good idea to lock up your firearms. I do not think its a good idea to make it mandatory.

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Uh huh

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Originally Posted by hatidua

The government dictates enough of what goes on in our lives already. I don't think willfully inviting more oversight is even remotely close to being a good idea.

Don't blame me for what a criminal steals, blame the criminal!

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Yeah

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Originally Posted by HBARleatherneck

cars kill 40,000 people a year. and we dont make people lock their cars in state approved garages. cars are even stolen frequently and used in crimes. for the children we should lock up cars.

if the guns are stored in your private vehicle or private home, that is secure enough. if the criminals obeyed the laws, then you wouldnt have to worry.

subsidize gun safes? so, we can borrow more money from china and force taxpayers to help us buy a safe? NO.

then comes the STATE mandated periodic checks at your home, to make sure you guns are locked up. of course if they had a list of all the guns you own, then they could see if they were all locked in the safe. or they will just have to search your entire property searching for any unlocked guns. NO

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And Yes!

So for me it'd be no...

Let's consider this in the form of a scenario; shall we?

So, you're just going to pick your child up from school... Can't have your carry gun with you on school grounds so you decide to leave it at home, secured.

Your child's teacher wants to discuss an issue with you, delaying your return home for 15 minutes.

You get back home, walk inside and know something isn't right.

While you were gone someone broke into your home and now you've returned while they are still there (happens often enough in real life doesn't it?). You are standing between them and your homes exits but your firearms are "properly secured" and not available to you (at least not quickly).

What do you suppose the likely outcome of this will be? Are you willing to gamble the lives of you and your family to find out?

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Originally Posted by theGinsue

Let's consider this in the form of a scenario; shall we?

So, you're just going to pick your child up from school... Can't have your carry gun with you on school grounds so you decide to leave it at home, secured.

Your child's teacher wants to discuss an issue with you, delaying your return home for 15 minutes.

You get back home, walk inside and know something isn't right.

While you were gone someone broke into your home and now you've returned while they are still there (append often enough in real life doesn't't it?). You are standing between them and your homes exits but your firearms are "properly secured" and not available to you (at least not quickly).

What do you suppose the likely outcome of this will be? Are you willing to gamble the lives of you and your family to find out?

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Exactly.

I keep them in seperate places of the house for a scenario like this.