Obama EO's on the way and they're BAD

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Originally Posted by Dave

Not wanting to add to the rumor mill too much, but both my wife and I have federal jobs and both of our offices have rumors that federal employees may be subject to the EO's to the tune of not being able to be employed if you own AW's, high cap mags or other NFA items. [fail][Rant2]

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Ugh...wrong time to become a GS. Just told everybody in my office I just sold all my weapons!
Uhhhhh...would military be considered a federal employees and subject to this as well? I have a few friends still in that might disagree with this one.

Im soooooo confused.

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Originally Posted by muddywings

Ugh...wrong time to become a GS. Just told everybody in my office I just sold all my weapons!
Uhhhhh...would military be considered a federal employees and subject to this as well? I have a few friends still in that might disagree with this one.

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hahahaha Good luck!

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Originally Posted by MuzzleFlash

An EO defining large capacity feeding devices as destructive devices under the NFA. Beta Mags, belts, drums, etc. Unsure if they will go for 30 round AR mags. Some talk of limiting it to capacities > 50. This would likely be ruled unlawful but we're looking at two years of litigation and possibly a change on SCOTUS before it gets there.

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i wonder how much i could get for my chinese 120rd ar drums after that?

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Originally Posted by jreifsch80

i wonder how much i could get for my chinese 120rd ar drums after that?

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I thought you said, you lost that one in the boating accident?

Safe to bet it will rise in value, more that the stock market!

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Originally Posted by ScooterCO

I thought you said, you lost that one in the boating accident?

Safe to bet it will rise in value, more that the stock market!

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Probably enough to rent some diving equipment and see if you can find it. A little Naval jelly and it should be GTG.

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Originally Posted by Ghosty

Don't shoot me, but I can actually live with that, if that's all there is, but I doubt very much that's all there is.

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Seriously? You're ok with having all your 'high capacity' feeding devices become NFA controlled items that require paperwork, serialization and a $200 tax stamp each? Or are you simply ok with it because none of it would affect you personally. As long as you get to keep what you have, infringing on others rights is acceptable? If that's the case then rest assured they'll be coming after whatever you have at some point in the future too. All of these things are small steps to the ultimate goal of a total ban on everything.

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Originally Posted by mutt

Seriously? You're ok with having all your 'high capacity' feeding devices become NFA controlled items that require paperwork, serialization and a $200 tax stamp each? Or are you simply ok with it because none of it would affect you personally. As long as you get to keep what you have, infringing on others rights is acceptable? If that's the case then rest assured they'll be coming after whatever you have at some point in the future too. All of these things are small steps to the ultimate goal of a total ban on everything.

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Another Fudd on board.

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Originally Posted by MuzzleFlash

Just got off the phone with an industry professional who is pretty wired into things. Here's what he's hearing:

1. Obama has been told not to expect much action from congress on an AWB.
2. Obama has decided to take unilateral action and issue several EO's.
   
   • An EO defining large capacity feeding devices as destructive devices under the NFA. Beta Mags, belts, drums, etc. Unsure if they will go for 30 round AR mags. Some talk of limiting it to capacities > 50. This would likely be ruled unlawful but we're looking at two years of litigation and possibly a change on SCOTUS before it gets there.
   • There will be a NFA amnesty restricted to registering these devices. This will require serialization and other required markings. How do you serialize a Browning 30 cal belt?
   • They want to make this mag ban a wedge issue for the 2014 mid terms.
   • There will be other EO's banning importation of standard capacity mags, belts and drums.
   
   
3. They are hoping - even banking on - a few cold dead hands types to take up arms against them. They want the fight so they can try to split the gun rights groups and voting block into "extremists" radicals and the hunters and sporting clays types.

I hope I am wrong.

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No offense, but I'll wait to hear it from the Jackasses' lips.

Sorta confused how he can EO any of this. Presidential Proclamation would be more like it, but still hard to see how he can make any of that stick legally. Not to mention the shit storm it would create with an already strained and pissed off firearms culture at all of the nonsensical, heavy handed, and quite frankly illegal proposals in the works.