Colorado Democrats to roll out tougher gun proposals Tuesday

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Originally Posted by muddywings

A stripped lower is technically the firearm.
Question-If you have a custom built, do they plan on going after every part maker?
Sorta shows they don't know what the hell they are talking about....

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Typical for lawyers when planning a lawsuit is to throw them out and see what the court lets stick to who or what.

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Originally Posted by TS12000

The college campus no ccw thing always blows my mind. CCW holders are some of the lowest crime committing subgroups of people in the country yet always accused of somehow causing these shootings? It doesn't make any kind of damned sense at all.

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Let me explain the college campus no ccw thing; Its not about making campuses safer, its about making gun owners (read: Republicans/conservatives/libertarians) feel unwelcome in their strongholds, thus preserving them as high density leftist echo chambers.

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Originally Posted by MED

The college campus CCW thing is STUPID. I just don't see how they can logically turn people into defenseless victims and think it is good policy.

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What's even dumber is the fact that the CO Supreme Court said that banning CCW on college campuses is unconstitutional.

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What's even dumber is the fact that the CO Supreme Court said that .

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Unfortunately, I don't think they said that banning CCW on college campuses is unconstitutional, just that it violated current state law. Hence, the push to change the law.

I would like to know which democrats are wavering and may vote against their party. If we can sway enough we could defeat these , soon to be, bills and send a message.
Does anyone have any knowledge on where we should focus our efforts? In an all Republican district, I believe my future efforts should be focused on other state officials.

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Originally Posted by muddywings

I've only spent a little free time on VPC.org to try to pick apart some of their claims....it's a hobby.
Since my wife is in school full time and a CCW holder AND carries all the time, I picked a part this one for a friend:
http://www.vpc.org/ccwkillers.htm

499 deaths by CCW since 2007.
5 years 7 months
averages to 90 a year.
round down to 300,000,000 people in the US
your chances of being killed by a CCW holder is.....0.000003/year
feel free to compare to cars, doctors, pools, etc etc


Dems: never let facts or statistics get in the way of an emotional argument!

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I see there's a figure of law enforcement officers killed by CCW holders. I wonder what the total of the same time of innocent targets or bystanders killed by LEOs would be? Denver alone could probably beat the 14 figure. I also wonder why they think someone willing to commit murder with a CCW wouldn't carry an illegal pistol, since most of the homicides in this country are by people using illegally owned and carried handguns.

From the follow-up DP article:

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingne...y-about-partys

Mentioned specifically: Rep. Ed Vigil (D- Fort Garland), Rep. Dominick Moreno (D-Commerce City) and Sen. Lois Tochtrop, (D-Thornton),

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From the follow-up DP article:

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingne...y-about-partys

Mentioned specifically: Rep. Ed Vigil (D- Fort Garland), Rep. Dominick Moreno (D-Commerce City) and Sen. Lois Tochtrop, (D-Thornton),

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Good info -- Thanks

Hats off to all of you who voted for democrats. How's that "pro-gun" thing working out for ya?

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What's even dumber is the fact that the CO Supreme Court said that banning CCW on college campuses is unconstitutional.

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As mentioned above, this is not correct.
The Colorado Supreme Court ruled that the University of Colorado could not ignore state law where it was clear that the law explicitly applied to the University.