Jessica’s Law failed: Colo House Judiciary Committee says "Guns bad" but "Raping children OK"

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Originally Posted by DeusExMachina

I was moved by the testimony of a father on Tuesday, who testified that his young daughter's rapist swore (i believe in court) when he got out of jail he would rape her again, kill her parents infront of her, and then kill her. He gets out of jail next year.

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I can't imagine the amount of anxiety that father has to feel. I know what I would do.

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Originally Posted by BPTactical

I was thinking last night, if all the anti 2A proposals pass(which after yesterday I feel they will) what will their response be if there is another incident in Colorado?

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Look East to NJ/NY. NY already passed. NJ gun owners just got corn-holed in committee yesterday worse then CO. And West to CA of course.

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Originally Posted by hollohas

You must be joking...

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Nope. From the way the way the thread reads, this law is asking for mandatory sentencing for people who are charged. Have there been cases where someone is charged, but not sentenced?

Guy Dues is talking about sounds like a real POS, but it still sounds like he was sentenced.

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Originally Posted by DeusExMachina

I think most people here are advocates of harsher punishments for existing laws. It's one
of the main reasons why gun violence is a 'problem'.

When a guy only gets 17 years for beating his mother to death with a hammer, comes out and shoots a number of firefighters, there's an issue.

I was moved by the testimony of a father on Tuesday, who testified that his young daughter's rapist swore (i believe in court) when he got out of jail he would rape her again, kill her parents infront of her, and then kill her. He gets out of jail next year.

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We don't need more laws. In fact I think we need less BS laws HOWEVER, I think we need to have harsher punishments for the laws on the books. This is a case were I think the minimum sentence needs to be VERY HIGH.
The revolving door needs to be stopped and prison should not be club med. It should be about making small rocks from big rocks and it should be a very long time for people who commit these types of crimes OR other violent crimes.

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Originally Posted by Irving

Nope. From the way the way the thread reads, this law is asking for mandatory sentencing for people who are charged. Have there been cases where someone is charged, but not sentenced?

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Wrong. The bill reads:

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CONCERNING MANDATORY SENTENCING PROVISIONS FOR A
DEFENDANT CONVICTED OF A SEX OFFENSE AGAINST A CHILD
WHO IS FOURTEEN YEARS OF AGE OR YOUNGER.

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You can't sentence people to jail time who are charged but not convicted no matter what crime they are charged with. This law simply asks for a harsher punishment for violating CURRENT law.

It asked that criminals convicted of sex crimes on children get a mandatory minimum sentence of 25 years. As a father, I would be surprised if you didn't support that. I don't know what the current minimum sentence is (if there is one) but the more the better when it comes to this crime.

So again, these so-called Representatives have voted "yes" on a bill that would limit the rights of law abiding gun owners to "protect the kids" however they vote "no" on a bill that would actually protect the kids from proven child rapists by locking them up longer. How does that make sense?

Excuse me. Convicted was definitely the word I was looking for. So, are there instances where people convicted of a sex offense against a child who is fourteen or under, are NOT sentenced?

Is this law asking for mandatory sentencing, or higher penalties? I'm okay with increasing penalties by changing current law.

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Originally Posted by Irving

Excuse me. Convicted was definitely the word I was looking for. So, are there instances where people convicted of a sex offense against a child who is fourteen or under, are NOT sentenced?

Is this law asking for mandatory sentencing, or higher penalties? I'm okay with increasing penalties by changing current law.

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Yes, this bill only asked to revise current Colorado Revised Statutes regarding sex crimes so that the minimum sentence was harsher. Currently the minimum are as low as 2 years.

I don't know about Colorado but there have been many instances of criminals convicted of sex crimes, that were only given probation or very short jail terms, who went on to hurt kids again. That is why 44 states have some version of this so-called Jessica's law that requires a steep minimum sentence for child sex crimes.

After clarification, I'm on bored.

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Originally Posted by Irving

After clarification, I'm on bored.

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I know. Personally I'm getting board with these politics....