I like what u said in post 10. Quick and to the point.
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I like what u said in post 10. Quick and to the point.
Let those with Pools (Swimming Pools) and Cars fight their fight, leave it to those with guns to fight at this point in time. I'd go easy on the personal attack myself, we're all angry over this, and that's what they want.
I think the Moris reference to him granting rights needs brought up. Maybe a softer approach would ask him if he said this and does he truly believe it. Just a thought.
Thank you for your efforts.
While I also think morse is the biggest POS ever in the legislature, for this venue, you have to win hearts and minds, the personal attack won't be received well.
in the second paragraph, you say " firstly". This implies a " secondly" which I don't see.
I would just drop that word firstly.
I'll reattack the point with the pools, but the analogy of charging someone for another persons' crime, regarding the drunk driving, is quite relevant.
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Originally Posted by gnihcraes
It ABSOLUTELY does need to be brought up. No personal attacks but he said it, and it needs to be put back to the floor of the Senate.Quote:
Originally Posted by jslo
I think this would make a great closing statement.
BTW here's the source : http://www.durangoherald.com/article...gets-liabilityQuote:
In numerous publications Senator Morse is quoted as saying "The reality is, these folks don’t have a Second Amendment right to buy these guns. I’m not going there in this bill. I’m granting them the right, if you will, as long as they take 100 percent of the responsibility, both to sell it, to buy it, to possess it, to shoot it, the whole kit and kaboodle".
With all due respect Senator, you do not grant rights, our rights are given to us by our creator and guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States of America. And your bill is assigning responsibility to uninvolved persons for the actions of others.
Call him out, don't back down. He is just another man!Quote:
Originally Posted by Birddog1911
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Originally Posted by XC700116
^+1- Closing statement- Read what he said than counter it with what your wrote... He doesn't grant us rights, only GOD and the Constitution protects us from tyrants like him....
For all of you saying "don't get personal" - I must say bullshit. Now is the time to turn it up a notch. To be brutally honest about their tactics and to tell it like it is. Look, they are NOT going to care about the 'facts' - they have gotten their powerpoint slides and talking points from their lobbyists and they are going to believe whats in those over ANYTHING you have to say. It sucks but its the honest to gods truth. Look we need to get sentiment on our side and we need to make them embarrassed that is the ONLY way this is going to work. I posed the following in another thread but I am repeating it here to make sure you all get this:
Call them out, tell them you know that they have already made up their mind and that this is a sham -- then tell them the consequences of their actions (politely and without any direct threat). Politely tell them that you believe they are sell outs and no longer representing the people - and that if they are not representing the people than we don't need them anymore. Tell them the recalls that are starting for the Representatives that voted on the bills are gaining speed, getting people signing up rapidly, and that the campaigns are having no problems getting funding. Politely tell them that they are taking east coast money at the expense of Coloradian's lives and that their east coast donors also support child rapists, drug addict politicians, and adulterers. Tell them that the gun control concept is patently a lie since there are guns protecting them every day -- so obviously, by their own logic and admission, they only want *their* people to have guns, then remind them that *their* people probably really don't like their politics all that much. Tell them that they are ignorant about how a gun works - and that that they are not experts just because their $450/hr lobbyist and lawyers gave them a power point presentation while they were drafting the laws. Tell them that just because Field's son made poor decisions and hung out with gang members, that he paid the consequences for his actions (by being shot by other gang members) -- and that the rest of us should not be punished for his poor choices or Field's poor parenting skills.
Use the time to call them on their lies - directly. NICELY. CALMLY. Be absolutely polite and perfectly factual. Use their own tactics against them.
Rules 3, 4, 9, 11 and 13 are tactical and reaidly applicable to quick win interactions such as testimony. Look through those and develop some wording. I will be happy to help speech write with you.Quote:
- RULE 1: “Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.” Power is derived from 2 main sources – money and people. “Have-Nots” must build power from flesh and blood.
- RULE 2: “Never go outside the expertise of your people.” It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone.
- RULE 3: “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.” Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty.
- RULE 4: “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules.
- RULE 5: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.
- RULE 6: “A good tactic is one your people enjoy.” They’ll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. They’re doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones.
- RULE 7: “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.” Don’t become old news.
- RULE 8: “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.” Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new.
- RULE 9: “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.” Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist.
- RULE 10: "The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition." It is the unceasing pressure that will result in the reaction of the opposition that is essential for the success of the campaign.
- RULE 11: “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog.
- RULE 12: “The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.” Never let the enemy score points because you’re caught without a solution to the problem.
- RULE 13: “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.
For those of you worried about being asked to leave -- SO EFFING WHAT.
Quit being nice - I know its our way and that we all think we can win this using reason and logic, its not going to happen. We need reason and logic but we also need public opinion.
Oh and one more thing.. Tell them that you know that they have been flooded with thousands of letters telling them not to support the bills, that you have been to their town halls and listened to the hundreds that told them no vs. the one or two that have been in support, tell them you have been watching their Facebook pages, and their twitter feeds and that by all counts their constituents have overwhelmingly stated they do not want these bills to pass -- and that if they vote yes for any of them they are, in essence, publicly stating that they are serving their own political careers vs. what they have been elected to do.