That's right, its the kings meat you goddamn serfs...jkjkQuote:
Originally Posted by newracer
I would also like to see owner tags go up, for the reasons mentioned above. I would bet people who live in those areas know a lot more about the populations and have to deal with them on an everyday basis.
According to the Hunter's Education Course, big game species in Colorado are owned by the people of Colorado.Quote:
Originally Posted by ray1970
It must be different in some other states, as I have a friend in a Southern state who owns property where he feeds and cares for a large herd of deer. He seems to be able to cull as many as he wants each year, but is careful to assure the overall health of the herd - BUT - he manages all that himself, not the state.
DHC, I believe HBAR's gripe with the add is that it makes it appear that land owners are just sitting back, raking in the dollars, when in reality, there are tangible losses that come with land ownership.
Many landowners do make a lot of money off hunting tags, most probably do not.
There are already many ways a landowner can get multiple tags. My nephew had 7 deer tags last year for use on his property.
having wildlife on your land or use your land as highway ( such as deer, elk, antelope, buffalo, etc.) cost landowners money. period.
they break down fences. they tear down hay stacks, they eat the grass and alfalfa, that the ground we pay for produces. We improve the land, we work the land. Wildlife can then cause us to have to BUY supplemental feed for our own animals. And what do we get out of it? not much.
The DOW allows persons who own at least 160 acres to put in for landowner tags. I dont know all the ins and outs of it, but you dont get a bunch of tags to get rich on. Maybe the smart folks who paid good money for land in great Elk and Big Horn areas might make some money. AND THEY SHOULD. THEY PAID FOR THE LAND. If you dont like it, buy some land. Then we can see if you get rich from it. I have been to large mountain ranches where the elk population has devoured whole hay stacks of BOUGHT hay. I have seen these herds destroy fences. I guess landowners should get nothing for the damage and losses, because the city public thinks the animals belong to everyone. Its not welfare, if we feed them and get them a place to live, we should get a little something in return.
Why do they give land owner tags to begin with?
I would think part of it is, there is so much private land, that they know the wildlife lives on private land. They know that the animal herds could get too big, if they stayed on private land and were not managed. I think maybe they know its the right thing to do, to let land owners harvest a managed amount of animals for our personal use. Whether that be meat for our friends and family. Or to make up for some of the losses incurred because of wildlife by selling the tag to a city person who will harvest the animal.
he may have actually stocked the property. lots of game ranches back east and down south have stocked properties with tall fences, so there is no comingling of public and private animals. I know guys with Elk herds. I have owned buffalo and my cousin has a large buffalo operation in Erie and up near Irvings land. So, we can own game animals. They are not caught from wild herds and fenced in though.Quote:
Originally Posted by DHC
Conversely, citified hippy f-cks from Fort Fun own NONE of the antelope on his land.Quote:
Originally Posted by newracer
Actually I own just as much of them as you do or he does. For the record I am far from a certified hippy fuck and I take serious offense to your comment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter
Do a search on "CDOW big game damage program" as the CDOW can help with payments for damage caused by big game for every thing from devoured hay, to destroyed fences, to in home damage caused by bears, to lifestock depredation. The CDOW will even help with cost to try to prevent further damage such as fenceing costs, etc.Quote:
I have been to large mountain ranches where the elk population has devoured whole hay stacks of BOUGHT hay. I have seen these herds destroy fences. I guess landowners should get nothing for the damage and losses, because the city public thinks the animals belong to everyone. Its not welfare, if we feed them and get them a place to live, we should get a little something in return.
Landowners / outfitters can get "special" tags. However, it is through the Ranching For Wildlife program and is a good deal for all. Landowners with enough land (and CPW will allow you to aggregate several landowners together under one program) can enter into the Ranching for Wildlife program. The landowner/outfitter then gets 90% of the buck/bull tags for the property and the public can apply for the remaining 10% of buck/bull and all the cow/doe tags allocated. The public who draw then get no-fee access to the private land. The outfitter gets tags with an extended season during which to sell guided / self-guided hunts onto the property.