Gun Control Template ?

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Originally Posted by Ronin13

Isn't that typical par for the course though? Look at the UK... they love to point out that gun related murder is down since enacting some of the most strict gun control laws in the EU, but they always leave out the fact that violent crime is the highest of the entirety of the EU, so much so that it's considered the most crime ridden nation in Europe. Of course don't use Chicago as a more local example, that would take all the air out of their argument.

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It's not an argument. it's the sane and reasonable thing to do.
[ In Obama's voice] it's not about CONFISCATION, IT'S ABOUT EDUCATION.

EDUCATING OUR CHILDREN TO STOP THE SENSELESS VIOLENCE.

EDUCATING ADULTS / PARENTS WHO NEED TO SEE THE LIGHT AND REALIZE HOW BAD GUNS AND THEIR PARANOID BITTER CLINGING WHITE OWNERS ARE.

JEREMIAH WRIGHT MY MENTOR AND GUIDING LIGHT IS CORRECT GDA, GDA, GDA.

Washington has traitorous politicians, and enough lamp posts to accomodate them all.... shame they're not being put to better use.

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Originally Posted by Bailey Guns

Agreed. But I think there's another very important reason it won't work here.

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Afuckingmen.

We all know how this will end. This isn't about "common sense" gun legislation, this is about confiscation and control. No matter how hard we fight through political means they will not listen. This is all about the Government controlling the American people. They also know with the 2A still intact, we can defend ourselves.

I am not sure where this country is headed, i know that it is headed in the wrong direction and how it gets steered back on course is up in arms at the moment, I know that i do not see the ending as being a good thing or necessarily a peaceful thing. i do see economic collapse as a real possibility I do see the cities imploding and the city dwellers will riot, whether that means revolution or not is anyone's guess.

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Originally Posted by rockhound

I am not sure where this country is headed, i know that it is headed in the wrong direction and how it gets steered back on course is up in arms at the moment, I know that i do not see the ending as being a good thing or necessarily a peaceful thing. i do see economic collapse as a real possibility I do see the cities imploding and the city dwellers will riot, whether that means revolution or not is anyone's guess.

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The cities will implode as the tit's yanked out of the ghetto's mouth, and we will have large-scale rioting/looting for a few weeks. However, this is exactly what the agenda wants... it will give them an excuse to finally occupy domestically with military forces, and the next generation will be used to the sight of armed soldiers at the grocery store, gas-station ration line, post office etc. Confiscation attempts will occur without legislation, in the name of emergency. When the smoke clears, they will have the police state they've always wanted.

What happens then, will be up to the people pissed off enough about the whole situation... With the welfare voting bloc gone or in locked-down submission, they may inadvertently have shifted the balance a bit more toward the "good side" with what remains. If it can get organized, is another matter...

My family has a farm in the middle of nowhere, Australia, and cattle rustlers think nothing of pulling up a few semis and taking $50k worth of cattle from the property. It's happened 2 or 3 times. They are probably armed, and know that we aren't. We haven't had a confrontation with them, but imagine what would happen if we did. We don't really know when they do it, but all of a sudden we're missing a bunch of cattle, and we see the semi tracks at the cattle yards. Yeah, they use our cattle yards to load them up.

They would never, ever do that if they thought we had weapons.

If I had a high powered rifle there, I would strongly consider taking a summer off work and camping in the hills overlooking the area to wait for them. And there would be a few semi-sized holes dug in the ground waiting for them. But - can't get a rifle. I think a chainsaw would be the best weapon we could muster.

Better to die on your feet than live on your knees I say.

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Originally Posted by Zundfolge

The thing is that there are TWO tipping points.

Tipping Point 1: The point at which the people get fed up and are motivated do what is necessary to fix the problems.
Tipping Point 2: The point at which the problems are unsolvable without massive upheaval/violence/death (which is never guaranteed to actually fix the problems and often ends up making them worse).


If TP1 happens before TP2 then things can work out great in the end, if TP2 happens first ... well that really really sucks.

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Originally Posted by speedysst

Better to die on your feet than live on your knees I say.

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