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What the heck is this stuff on the bottom of the branches of my tree? It looks like this is what causes my tree to sap so badly. It is a problem for my neighbor and I. This looks like something that is separate from the tree though. What is this, and is it treatable? When you smash these, the pop with red goop like you can see on my fingers.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-p...28HDR%2529.jpg
Zombie larvae?
lobbed from my electronic ball and chain
Yeah, the picture came out surprisingly clear and it looks much worse in the picture.
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Originally Posted by buffalobo
Sent by a free-range electronic weasel, with no sense of personal space.
Looks like scale. Good luck, those things are nasty. Depending on the tree and the specific bug, I think you can spray a special oil on them when the babies hatch (little bugs hiding under the shells), and then do it again 2 weeks later and again in the winter (or something like that). I'm not a tree guy, but I've definitely seen those before. :(
Just looked it up. That does look like what I have. I never would have noticed this had I not been on my roof looking directly at the tree. So one more thing to worry about around the house...
One other thing... that "sap" you mentioned might also be scale poop. They call it "honeydew" and it can also cause mold, or at least encourage it. If I remember right, a lot of the black mold some of our trees had on them was supposedly caused by scale honeydew.
That's not sap falling from your tree, it's poop.
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Originally Posted by Brian
^^^^^ Brian hit it. It indeed tree scale. And that sappy shit is shit called Honeydew. I'd call O-Tool's garden center and ask them if they have a residential spray they might sell. But it is hard to get rid of. I know I don't have any at my shop right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian
This what your looking for.
http://www.domyownpestcontrol.com/do...il-p-1713.html
Thanks DSB. That explains the black mold on my awning.
You bet, I believe it's best to apply the dormant oil in winter just before the scale hatches. I'll see if I can find out when that might be for ya. [Beer]
Thank you. On the chance that I do nothing, what are the risks? I assume the life of the tree in is in peril, but what about other trees in the neighborhood? Also, will getting rid of the scale help the sapping issue (since it's aparently not sap)?
This article may help.
Scale Insects
Male scale insect are harmless to trees, but the female scale insect can kill a full grown tree by sucking the sap out of it. Female scale insects are wingless, about ½ inch or less in size and have differing body types according to scale type.
What all the female scale insects have in common is their long, needle-like feeding tube they insert into the tree. The female scale insect will crawl around on a tree until it finds a lodging place, then it will insert it's needle-like feeding tube into the tree and remain in that location for life.
Most trees can be sprayed with dormant oil to smother the scales and their eggs, but some trees, like a Japanese maple of Sugar maple can not tolerate dormant oil spray. For those trees, spray an insecticide on the tree at two week intervals during the late spring and early summer to kill the newly hatching scale insects. Check with the local County Extension Office or nursery to find out which control method is best for the particular tree.
My brother had recommended a systemic pesticide made by Bayer that I can pour into the ground, since it is too late to spray. Also considering getting an injection. Thanks for the new knowledge everyone. Brother thinks I also may have aphids, which explains the sapping and wasps. I know I had aphids on my grape vine before I cut it down.
Looks like European elm scale. That is if it is and elm tree you have. Looks like it from the branch. The bayer product will not work all that well. Tried the same ingredient for a while with minimal results. It usually takes multiple treatments with multiple types of products at different times of year. If it is a large tree it will be tough to get it under control yourself. I sent you a pm with my number.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
Thanks Vince, got the pm. The direction I'm headed sounds like an injection. I'll get some identifying pictures of the tree tonight. My brother seems b to think it is an Ash.
Here are the leaves
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-E...620_202718.jpg
And the bark
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-X...28HDR%2529.jpg
You can see how the top side of the bark is black from the infestation.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-9...28HDR%2529.jpg
Hey Stu. Vince's right that is an Elm Tree.
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/i...x-fe7R4AOO0wjg
I don't think injection is gonna help it much at all. Best thing to do is wait it out till fall when it drops it's leaves and spray the Dormant oil on the little bastards just before they hatch in spring.
So spray in fall, spring, or both?
Something about Elm trees that is so majestic. Reminds me of back home.
Is that sarcastic? I never liked Elms. The ones I grew up around seemed a lot different than mine though. Taller and thinner.Quote:
Originally Posted by rbeau30
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Originally Posted by Irving
Nope, Back home they were big and tall, like a big piece of broccoli. I liked how they looked all lined up down the street.
You need to spray the oil in the late winter / early spring just as the leaves start coming out and the air warms up. That's when the scale starts to hatch / lay eggs. The oil smothers them of oxygen and they die as they try to wake up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
Make sure to keep us updated. We're all curious how your black poop turns out.
A trunk application with a product called safari works well. It too is systemic but tends to work a lot better. Can't be done by a homeowner though.Quote:
Originally Posted by DSB OUTDOORS
Sako can that trunk application be applied whenever?
I am pretty sur but would have to double check. Relatively new treatment. I will check tomorrow at work and can get back with ya.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
Thanks. No pressure. This tree issue is pretty much at the very bottom of my priorities list. I posted it up because I wanted to know what the heck I was looking at, and knew this thread existed, but I'm not in a hurry to spend the money on this problem right now.
Nownis the time for the bark banding or a spray with an insecticide. The crawlers are out in late June first part of July.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
Any idea on cost? Just a rough estimate. Don't they charge based on diameter of the tree?
Probably over a 100 for thru spray as it is dependent on dbh. For the future, having it done in may will get the most bang for the buck. Will control some leaf miner, leaf beetles, aphids and scale.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving