Valid points and I think it’s a wise & prudent choice! Keep us posted.Quote:
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Valid points and I think it’s a wise & prudent choice! Keep us posted.Quote:
Originally Posted by hurley842002
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Originally Posted by hurley842002
No Auto knife is CA compliant
Stated in Penal Code 17235 and Penal Code 21510, California has strict laws regulating the sale and possession of switchblades.Quote:
Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo
Specifically, if a switchblade has a blade two inches or more in length, it is a crime to:
Possess the knife in the passenger's or driver's area of any motor vehicle in any public place or place open to the public,
Carry the switchblade upon your person, or
Sell, offer or expose for sale, or loan, transfer, or give the knife to anyone else.1
California law specifies 2" or more as the cut off, hence why the 1.9" Kershaw is legal for carry in CA.
I’ve got the Launch 6, so my comment won’t help....[gohome]Quote:
Originally Posted by sellersm
I got 5, so that I can carry. 3.5" < L . Also they are very ergonomic.Quote:
Originally Posted by sellersm
I think Launch 7 is longer.
I just got my Launch 4. It's replacing a Ken Onion Chive so size is just about the same but the handle is significantly thicker. The release button is very gritty feeling if you press it slowly but it feels like it's wearing in and getting smoother. This is my first auto so I can't say much for how it compares to others.
Pros:
I really like the small size.
It locks up tight with no play when open.
$69 and it feels like a quality knife.
Cons:
I wish it would have been sharper out of the box.
I wish it came with a "deep carry" clip so it would sit lower in my pocket.
Button is not smooth.
I still really want one of these, a good California friendly option for when we visit the in laws.Quote:
Originally Posted by spongejosh
Fortunate to have my first auto be the the one I've wanted more than any other. Benchmade 3551.
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Is it as great as you'd hoped so far?
This knife in particular is really great, but autos in general aren't as extravagant as the hype makes them out to be, still pretty cool tho.
I picked up a cheapy, Chinese, auto from another member and feel the same way. The "auto" part of the knife wears off quickly and I could certainly live without it. Still like it though.
I tried a couple of auto knives but they just didn’t trip my trigger.
Gave one away and the other one is just sitting around.
I agree that the novelty wears off pretty quickly.
I'll keep and carry this knife, because I like THIS knife, but I could take or leave the auto idea.
Autos aren't that great? The ability to both deploy & retract with one hand is priceless.
Maybe OTF Autos, but I'm finding my Benchmade takes more effort to close than most of the manual folders I've owned, especially when compared to Benchmades' axis lock.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jer
Don't get me wrong, so far I'm really digging this auto, especially the authority at which the blade deploys, I just don't think there is much that an auto can do, that I can't also do with a manual.
Zero difference from most of my other knives with just a thumb stud. Not even a difference in speed. Not a humanly perceptible difference anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jer
Double OTF autos are a game changer.Quote:
Originally Posted by hurley842002
No way in hell can you put a liner or body lock thumb stud blade away as fast as I can retract a double OTF auto. Not even close. I've lost count of how many times that's been inexplicably handy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
You must be way more tacticool than me. While closing a folding knife with one hand comes in handy I’ve never found myself in a situation where the speed with which the blade was closed was that big of a deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jer
I find that my DA OTF is a great one handed operation and I use it all the time. I guess I'm just tacti-old [ROFL2]
LOL, I'm patiently waiting for the after action report on the "Tactical knife closing concepts, for the OTF operator" course.Quote:
Originally Posted by ray1970
I'm opening and closing mine while I'm typing just because I can [Beer]
What does OTF stand for?
Out the Front
Thanks, that's definitely not the type of knife I have.
It's just easier and faster to pull a button and have the blade retract in an instant and be on with your day w/o having to do anything else. I just don't see how someone could fold a traditional style folding knife faster is all.Quote:
Originally Posted by ray1970
The more important aspect isn't necessarily speed so much as convenience though. The ability to deploy and retract single-handed is ridiculously handy... pun intended. It's one of those things that you don't see the need for until you have it and use it for a while. You start to realize how handy it is to not drop whatever you're doing to fold your knife back up safely with two hands. With auto OTF you push a button, cut whatever needs cut then pull the button back and you're done. All with one hand and all as fast as you can push a button. I have a boat load of auto knives that aren't double and even more that aren't auto at all and I find that I never carry them anymore because when I do I inevitably find myself having to drop what I'm doing to fold the knife back up and it is feels clunky and antiquated.
I liken it to shooting a cap and ball gun compared to shooting an automatic. Sure, you can but.... why?
I have used many OTF autos before moving to Denver. My experience with the double actions is they are more fragile than I desire. I carried the Benchmade Infidel when they first came out and I kept having to reset the blade with any use. I shifted to several Microtechs and had similar experience. I will say the single action Microtech Halo V is rock solid, but you have to manually retract the blade when you are done. Just my two cents on OTF autos.
I've played with a few double and single action OTF Auto's, and while I can certainly understand the convenience Jer is talking about, I don't have much desire to dabble in OTF autos.Quote:
Originally Posted by elsilrac1
That's crazy because I've had several Infidels (standard, mini, anniversary, gold, etc.) and many Microtech (Ultratech, UTX85, etc.) and they've all been rock solid reliable for my use. I think I read some negative things about the Infidels from over 10 years ago but I think they cleared that up and even the one I had from those first batches gave me zero problems. They had some issues with some Infidels that were produced last year and that put a halt to production for several months that delayed the #'d 10th Anniversary Edition I ordered until this year but other than that I don't think I've heard an alarming number of issues from either. Nothing I wouldn't consider acceptable for production #'s anyway. Probably hard to say if you're one of the few that has issues I guess though. Just my anecdotal experience to add as data points.Quote:
Originally Posted by elsilrac1
I think that one of my favorite EDC knives is still a cheap-o Kershaw Ken Onion Tanto blade Blur but I don't even carry that anymore just because the putting away aspect has become a chore now that I'm use to DA OTF. The Halo is even super annoying due to the "cocking" aspect after each use. I just want to push a button, open a box and push a button and return to pocket. No drama or fanfare and I've definitely drank the DA OTF koolaid. lulz
Might have to try another Infidel then. Mine was a first production run. Thanks for the info. Been a knife guy for a long time and still go in and out of the hobby.
My experience has been pretty solid other than having to wait nearly a year for that Anniversary Infidel but once I found out why I was willing to wait. No issues with the handful or so Infidels I've personally owned. I don't go out of my to try to break my knives or abuse them though so not sure how typical my use is. I'm carrying a Microtech Ultratech currently because it disappears in my pocket as compared to the Infidel. The mini-Infidel is a real good size as well. They also have a Pagan model which I have limited first-hand experience with as I haven't owned one.Quote:
Originally Posted by elsilrac1
If you're on a budget I'd say to also check out the Precipice. I have a buddy who got one last year from GOVX or one of those first responder sites pretty cheap and he's had really good luck with it as well. It fires from the side like a Microtech and he's liked his. It's more of an entry-level version though so if you're looking for the most reliable, not sure how that one will stack up long-term. It's still a multi-hundred dollar knife though so I would imagine it's going to be hold up. I just don't have any long-term intel on that particular model to offer up.
I have to say I really like the one handed operation of my knife. Didn't know the terms before reading this but I guess I have a Double Action OTF. It's not super tactical but I'd say 70%ish of the times I'm using my knife it's to open a package or breaking down the boxes later. I really like that I can be holding a box with one hand, deploy the blade with the other and cut, retract the blade, all without putting things down. That was the worst sentence ever but I don't care either so take that!
Good conversation about OTF Autos - I will concede breaking down boxes is a joy with any of the double actions I have owned. My first run infidel on launch hit cardboard and was knocked out of its channel and had to be reset. I find myself not trusting them for anything other than cutting tape etc. I have carried the single action OTF and they are heavy duty tools. I love the function and feel of the OTF and look forward to trying them out again. For now I lean to a solid Benchmade Mini Rukus Auto that I value and a few other Protechs I can enjoy now that the law is on our side.
I want a nice OTF, like a Microtech, I really do.
That said, I can deploy offhand, my cheapo SOG Flash II, and close the blade one handed offhand as well.
I have a couple Gerber 06 autos. Nice chunky auto that can take a beating, but sucks for left hand deploy, and technically they're bigger than CO law allows.
Many good opinion.
Buy em all and carry em all. As for me, I will eventually save $$ by eliminating time to look for box cutter/scissors. I literally have about 300-400sq-ft of spaces dedicated to boxes at home.
My primary usage of EDC Knife is basically box cutting/Opening boxes. As I said before, carrying a EDC back of my pocket really really saves me time by not spending 30sec +/- to look for scissors or box cutters.
As for cheap box cutting (glorified box cutter) Kershaw Ken Onion collabration knives works great. Even those $18 kershaw zing works for me. Someone recommended Spyderco for box cuttingm, but I just cannot open my arms to Spyderco knives yet.
As for quick usage or normal outing, I would sometimes carry OTFs. It is just faster in-use-out.
Bruh! They're practically your neighbor!Quote:
Originally Posted by MrPrena
I'm not saying that nobody can do it but it's just quicker/easier. "click" use "click" all w/o changing hand position or adjusting anything. It's really that fast. Much like I can walk outside and manually open each of my sprinkler zones by hand but I'd much prefer clicking a button on my smartphone and having them magically run all by themselves after one click. Does that make me lazy? You bet! And I love it. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by brutal
I just realized that there are far too few photos so here's what I'm carrying today:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Mq...bSsnU7xI=w2400
Fresh back from Microtech for service is a desert camo Ultratech which has served me well. One of my favorite EDC knives due to it's size, ruggedness, the fact it doesn't look shiny and new so I can use it w/o feeling like a dick for munging it up. Unlike my full size Infidel for instance it seems to disappear in the pocket due to it's weight and size plus how smooth the inside of the handle is so I don't feel any sharp edges against my leg reminding me there's a knife there.
Went to the dark side and picked up an Infidel today.
Browsing at DangerLee while doing paperwork is dangerous.
Technically over Colorado's 3.5", but DADT and just like CCW, don't play with your junk in public right?
Pics with your nasty ass feet, or it didn't happen....Quote:
Originally Posted by brutal
ETA: Just saw a pic in the latest purchase thread, but I'll leave this post anyway.
Whats up with those Ravencrest and other OTF knives?
Any experiences?