Minimum wage increase

One of the guys I work with stopped by a Taco Bueno last night and got a burrito ... he was served by the manager and they talked for a bit. Apparently Taco Bueno has decided to close all its stores in Colorado, and while he wouldn't admit it "on the record" he said the minimum wage increase (and the increases to $12 to come) are a big part of the reason.

The other big reason is that it's increasingly hard to find people worth $7/hr let alone $10 because as he put it "Colorado kids are a bunch of pot-addled idiots".

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Originally Posted by Zundfolge

Apparently Taco Bueno has decided to close all its stores in Colorado, and while he wouldn't admit it "on the record" he said the minimum wage increase (and the increases to $12 to come) are a big part of the reason.

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Ah, unintended consequences.

Though, losing Taco Bueno, frankly, is no great loss.

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Originally Posted by Zundfolge

One of the guys I work with stopped by a Taco Bueno last night and got a burrito ... he was served by the manager and they talked for a bit. Apparently Taco Bueno has decided to close all its stores in Colorado, and while he wouldn't admit it "on the record" he said the minimum wage increase (and the increases to $12 to come) are a big part of the reason.

The other big reason is that it's increasingly hard to find people worth $7/hr let alone $10 because as he put it "Colorado kids are a bunch of pot-addled idiots".

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Color me surprised... The manager is right, though, kids these days are pothead idiots.

It's a shame what the legalization of pot has done to the state. Too stupid or lazy to understand a situation? No problem, just blame it on pot, no actual thought necessary. The restaurant and food service industry has largely been occupied by low earning drug users for as long as I've been alive and working. I'd bet money that's been the case for the last 60-70 years, in every single state in the union.

ETA: Why am I concerned about the economic evaluation coming from the f'ing manager of a Taco Bueno? haha

Fewer kids use pot now than when it was illegal, studies have shown.

It's just not cool now that it's readily available, and that it's readily available means it's harder to find someone who will sell under the table, not meeting those 18 years of age to buy laws.

How are people making minimum wage buying marijuana?

And who buys marijuana by the gram?
https://www.coloradopotguide.com/col...r-2017-update/

I am a supporter of the Freedom of Association. While not mentioned specifically in the First Amendment, the right of the people to freely assemble sort of implies that free people may associate with who they choose to associate with and conversely refuse to associate with those they refuse to associate with. If I want to work for $1 an hour, that right should be recognized and not infringed by any government. $1 per hour would be a better wage than dependent on government handouts IMO. Each person must make their way in the world and use whatever legal resources are available to meet their obligations.

Be safe.

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Originally Posted by cstone

How are people making minimum wage buying marijuana?

And who buys marijuana by the gram?
https://www.coloradopotguide.com/col...r-2017-update/

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Most of the time its weighed out in 1/8 oz which is 3.5 grams.

Eight balls and teeners. Hmmm, never thought about them in grams but fractions of an ounce. It was tough enough keeping up with the daily price. At least now they have web sites to provide such useful information.

Looks like Jack in the Box has run the numbers as well... http://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/20...-increase.html

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Originally Posted by Zundfolge

One of the guys I work with stopped by a Taco Bueno last night and got a burrito ... he was served by the manager and they talked for a bit. Apparently Taco Bueno has decided to close all its stores in Colorado, and while he wouldn't admit it "on the record" he said the minimum wage increase (and the increases to $12 to come) are a big part of the reason.

The other big reason is that it's increasingly hard to find people worth $7/hr let alone $10 because as he put it "Colorado kids are a bunch of pot-addled idiots".

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Originally Posted by Irving

It's a shame what the legalization of pot has done to the state. Too stupid or lazy to understand a situation? No problem, just blame it on pot, no actual thought necessary. The restaurant and food service industry has largely been occupied by low earning drug users for as long as I've been alive and working. I'd bet money that's been the case for the last 60-70 years, in every single state in the union.

ETA: Why am I concerned about the economic evaluation coming from the f'ing manager of a Taco Bueno? haha

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Sort of sounds like you agree with him. Maybe he thinks it's a new thing and you don't, but the problem is the same.

It really doesn't matter why these kids aren't worth more than an employer thinks they are - the employer just doesn't and shouldn't be forced to pay anyone more than they want to in this day and age.

A government mandated wage increase is outrageous.

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Originally Posted by Ridge

Fewer kids use pot now than when it was illegal, studies have shown.

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Yeah, studies paid for by whom? Studies done by whom? I'm sure there was no agenda at work there.

I don't buy it. Too many pro pot people in the system who have simply stopped looking for pot use now that its legal.

That popped into my head too. Stats can be manipulated to say anything you want if you aren't honest. But pot has been super easy to get for decades. Anyone who wanted to smoke before government regulation of it could have, and more cheaply.

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Originally Posted by Zundfolge

Yeah, studies paid for by whom? Studies done by whom? I'm sure there was no agenda at work there.

I don't buy it. Too many pro pot people in the system who have simply stopped looking for pot use now that its legal.

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Studies by the federal government. Who still says its illegal and wrong.

http://www.westword.com/news/colorad...-study-9782555

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Originally Posted by GilpinGuy

Sort of sounds like you agree with him. Maybe he thinks it's a new thing and you don't, but the problem is the same.

It really doesn't matter why these kids aren't worth more than an employer thinks they are - the employer just doesn't and shouldn't be forced to pay anyone more than they want to in this day and age.

A government mandated wage increase is outrageous.

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He said "Colorado" kids, as if cheap labor in the restaurant industry in other states isn't drawing from the same pool. That's what I don't buy. As far them packing up and leaving, that's perfectly understandable and contributes to the overall message to local law makers that says, "WTF are you doing?"

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Originally Posted by kidicarus13

Looks like Jack in the Box has run the numbers as well... http://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/20...-increase.html

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However, Comma said that while his fast-food restaurant has tested products with technological advances at their establishments, he has decided to not go forward with the kiosks.

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I wonder why they're balking.

Sam's Club closing 63 stores

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/w...064451519.html

"The closings came on the same day Walmart announced plans to raise starting hourly wages to $US11, expand employee benefits, and offer workers bonuses of up to $US1,000."

It's really quite simple... Attachment 73124

I had to check to make sure they weren't closing the one near me, since there is a shooting at the neighboring Wal-Mart every six months now.

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Originally Posted by Ridge

Fewer kids use pot now than when it was illegal, studies have shown.

It's just not cool now that it's readily available, and that it's readily available means it's harder to find someone who will sell under the table, not meeting those 18 years of age to buy laws.

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Ask anyone who works in Juvenile probation, they'll say those "studies" are complete BS. And I agree. Most of those studies rely too heavily on "self-reporting." Kids are still afraid to be honest about their use, due to it being illegal for their age and all.

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Originally Posted by Ronin13

Ask anyone who works in Juvenile probation

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Bit of a confirmation bias there, dontcha think?

People who deal exclusively with kids who break the law say all kids break the law?

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Originally Posted by Ridge

Bit of a confirmation bias there, dontcha think?

People who deal exclusively with kids who break the law say all kids break the law?

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That's not it at all... Working where I do, I get the opportunity to work with and meet probation officers, even in the juvenile system, and they're reporting more of their clients using marijuana than before the law was passed. I know that's a small sampling, and has the tendency to have dealings only with offenders, but if that population correlates at all to the non-offender group at all, it's showing a growing trend. And beyond that, there are more reported cases of underage use of marijuana.

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And beyond that, there are more reported cases of underage use of marijuana.

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Reported by whom?

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Originally Posted by Ridge

Reported by whom?

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Police, self-reporting (not the same as the "studies")

Why are teens smoking more weed now? Because it's legal for adults? Sure seems an awful lot like the justification for banning firearms since it supposedly decreases access to them by those that shouldn't have them.

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Originally Posted by foxtrot

Question: Remember when Cigarrettes were legal to smoke (as they still are) AND were promoted as being HEALTHY, Akin to Vitamins and/or medicine, the cure to all sorts of ailments, the "cool" thing to do, and you were an outcast if you didn't smoke.....

Did that lead to lower rates of teens smoking in the 40's and 50's?

Yeah, it all sounds familiar doesn't it.

"Science" has become a bent-barreled hi point in the hands of a circus monkey. Bias will always prevail.

If weed were treated like Tabacco and generally disdained in society, dating pools, and presumed to be unhealthy; then yes, you would see lower utilization. With all the propaganda distributed, there is little reason for teens not to start smoking weed in Colorado - 1940's revisited. If they don't become a stoner, they will be in pain and depressed after all, and have no friends being such a prude.

There is nothing new in annuls of time, just the same old shit with a different label.

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Well put!

Fun fact, Walmart is increasing their national minimum wage to $11/hr. Not because of any mandate, but they are sharing their gains from the new tax law with employees. That’s right, lower corporate tax rate means corporations can pay employees more.

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"Science" has become a bent-barreled hi point in the hands of a circus monkey. Bias will always prevail.


Kinda being rough on Hi-Point aren't you? After all, I'd be more likely to buy a Hi-point.

Minimum wage increase success story! Spotted today at the Razorback WalMart in North Colorado Springs.

Introducing, the WalBot!

http://nankoweap.com/movies/walbot_obstacle.mp4

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Literally, the New Wave.

You got tricked. That's just the next iteration of Google maps.