That would certainly change the narrative, wouldn't it.
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That would certainly change the narrative, wouldn't it.
I was thinking the same thing, like the principles behind shaped charges.Quote:
Originally Posted by Duman
where'd BMB's post after mine go?
I pulled the post. This is the replacement. Definitely the work of professionals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOOoClKzv4I
Professional military, or video editors?
Gonna go with fake
One of the earlier versions of FLIR for iPhone? Price has dropped somewhat after the introduction of this technology.
I think Trump was right, it was a bomb. F-35 with a GBU/53 is what I wanted to post when I first heard of this incident. But I had absolutely no proof. The F-35 could be 45 km away and still hit the target.
https://www.flir.com/products/flir-one-gen-3/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GBU-53/B_StormBreaker
:) The latterQuote:
Originally Posted by Irving
If the missile streak wasn't edited in, all they did was put the raw video in an editor and shift colors so certain things would pop more than others. It's the same principle as flipping between white hot, black hot, color, red, green, etc. on FLIR depending on the time of day, ambient temp, what you're viewing, etc.
Based on the direction of the video, it would seem that the missile, if it wasn't edited in, came from the S/SW. One only needs to draw a line to draw a conclusion.
anyone noticed the two ships docked at the site before and after the explosion? I would have thought they would have shown more damage.
I don't think the GBU has any propulsion. It just flies like a glider. It does have some extremely sophisticated navigation systems. It is noted for being able to see through smoke, bad weather etc.
I really want one of those FLIR gadgets now. Anybody here got one? Are they that good? Might be handy in a riot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udVEvS3THU8
I looked up some videos of MOAB (GBU-43/B) blasts the same day it happened too for comparison.Quote:
Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy
A MOAB blast by itself is small beans compared to the explosion in Beirut. A strombreaker would be even smaller.
Stormbreaker PLUS 2,700 of ammonium nitrate..maybe. Why send a huge warhead when there's plenty of explosive material just sitting there already?
Whatever really happened there, the precious metals prices are rocketing straight up.
On a positive note, they have new beach front property.
zacklyQuote:
Originally Posted by Irving
Yeah, scattered all over the city...Quote:
Originally Posted by Duman
Sorry guys and gals...There is too much info to strap on a tin foil hat in this case.
Ammonium nitrate becomes unstable over time, especially in a humid environment. I would like to pull up backing evidence, but comunistube has this insistence all over, and I am too lazy.
Ask yourself why did this happen? And keep drilling down..
My belief: negligence on epic proportions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzDC3iKbTzY
(edited for somewhat coherence and video)
I agree. I think someone was negligent and/or lazy and didn't do their job. After looking at and listening to evidence it sounds like exactly what they initially reported. The only question in my mind right now is what caused the fire.
I read a early article that mentioned someone was welding and that started it. I have read so many viewpoints, I can't wrap my head around it. From what I can tell, the ammonium nitrate melted and went down the drain. According to the .gov reports when it melts and gets into pipes and combines with various other substances, it has tendency to detonate very easily.
There are enough details about the negligence, including official documents linked in the zerohedge article, that I think that's pretty likely the truth.
That said. The truth is so bad the citizens there are pissed and protesting their shit government for killing so many people and destroying a city.
So, enter the narrative change. NOW the president there says, maybe it was a bomb or rocket....
gotta deflect the blame.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...overnment.html
the Lebanese president just asked France, a strategic partner, to identify if there were planes or missiles in the area...
Those who know wouldn't talk even if there was no missile. If there was, they'd have noted launch, weapon type launch signature, likely targets, and impact in real time. Might have even had a stiff drink when they got off shift and given their wife a strained grin, saying, "Nothing babe, today just seemed extra long. Crazy about Beirut, huh?"
Those who don't know, guess.
You can have 10 years of documented issues and warnings and clear evidence that someone's sitting on 2700 pounds of kablooey, and there's still going to be a lot of people suggesting it's a big conspiracy with the US government or the "juice" or something. Other posters have already addressed that.
Absent something with a credible basis, any further conspiracy suggestions may be removed here to keep the thread on track (this isn't the place to propose unfounded, zany theories). If they are removed, it is simply to not derail the discussion, not a personal affront to any users posting them.
ETA: Factual discussion as new aspects emerge is not what I'm talking about.
ETA2: It appears the thread mostly self corrected in the later posts.
It's Friday y'all! I took some time to review the footage taken by people in Beirut during the explosion. I'm amazed at the people who moved to try to get better footage. My first thought was to cover and grab my balls.
Six years is a long time for something to sit in warehouse. I wonder how many people were cognizant of what was in that warehouse until this past week. I can see it being a topic for a while but then gets pushed under the rug as other more pressing things come up.
Yep, like...SQUIRREL!Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyDrama
More information as to the cause of the explosion:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0-EOx0w9uo
SS Grandcamp, Apr. 1947 in port at Texas City. Approx same amount of ammonium nitrate aboard ignited. Similar devastation to the surroundings as the Beirut explosion. The ship caught fire just before the explosion.
Saw a program about that once. As I recall a nearby ship had a big load of balls of yarn/string/something, and the explosion blew flaming balls of yarn/whatever all over the city - starting scores of fires.Quote:
Originally Posted by SideShow Bob
Is that where Jerry got his lyrics from “great balls of fire “Quote:
Originally Posted by rondog
Thanks for that 4K slo-mo video link! Amazing watching the shockwave advance going through the buildings.Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperiorDG
Incredible.
Daymn !
It looked to be several times higher than the tallest building in the video. Amazing.
Impressive for sure. Looking at some of the buildings probably a k away blowing out the glass on the opposite end of the blast is amazing...
There's going to be a lot of people with superficial scars even a long ways from that.
I heard 300,000 folks were rendered homeless because their homes are now unlivable.... that’s gotta be worse than the superficial injuries in my opinion.
They must have edited the missile out.Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperiorDG
Reports out that the new swimming hole is 141 feet deep....
A bit ridiculous
Two things struck me on this. The first was the numerous "sparkles" in the initial cloud which seemed like individual munitions going off then the effect of the shockwave just tearing through all the buildings between the dock and the camera like they were papier mache. Utterly incredible to see an event like this unfold in slow motion in high definition. Am sorry for those who were killed or injured by the blast as well as those who are homeless or destitute after this.
Did anybody else notice the camera shake after the explosion and before the shockwave hit? The explosion apparently registered like 3.5 earthquake. Wouldn't surprise me if the explosion traveled faster through the ground than it did through the air.
Here it is on YouTube:
http://youtu.be/SkIYjNGiaoA
Even with the slo-mo, you can also playback even slower at 1/4 speed.