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Originally Posted by Rucker61
She kept her job very long at hwp/hpq relative to her performance.
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One.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rucker61
She kept her job very long at hwp/hpq relative to her performance.
:)
Prior to this acquisition, if SW caved to the pressure of the anti-gunners and decided to quit carrying handguns or evil black rifles or anything associated (like so many of the larger branded stores have done), we'd still have the option to find them at Cabela's or BPS.Quote:
Originally Posted by theGinsue
If there's demand for handguns or EBRs and BPS stops carrying them, someone else will step up and fill that market niche.Quote:
Originally Posted by funkymonkey1111
I mean, people bought handguns and EBRs BEFORE there was a BPS or a SW, right? ;)
If anything, BPS dropping EBRs or handguns would be a boost to the LGS's.
But honestly, that's unlikely to happen because if BPS, Cabelas and SW decide to cut handguns and EBRs, then they basically become Sports Authority or Dicks.
Well if they pull guns, they'd definitely be Dicks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinjmpr
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Originally Posted by MrPrena
I had owned a small amount of HPQ stock around that time period. While I appreciated some of Carly's statements in later years when she ran for political office, she was an unmitigated disaster as CEO of HPQ back in the day and I had to laugh whenever she pointed to her background as a businesswoman. Her time as CEO reminded me of the statement by the man elected by the "mutineers" of the 20th Maine when he addressed COL Joshua Chamberlain and described the Union Army's generals as "unable to pour pee from a boot with the instructions written on the heel."Quote:
Originally Posted by Rucker61
Merging HP with CPQ was utter stupidity.
Talked to a local FFL.
Cabelas/Bass Pro is the biggest gorilla in the civilian firearms market.
With their buying power they can get pricing so low that they can retail below the small dealer's wholesale price through the major distributors.
He said he can get most firearms cheaper from Bass Pro than through his distributor.
I don't think a business oriented major store chain would walk away from that kind of market power.
[Coffee]
Here's two places where Sportsman's historically excelled: ammunition selection / depth or selection of reloading components / supplies. Also, generally being much more affordable than the alternatives.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinjmpr
Before things went stupid:
Ammunition:
*BPS had lots of duck and goose loads, very expensive and limited choice of target loads (Win AA, Rem Nitro), a bit of the common soft tip rifle ammo, rarely any match grade anything. Handgun ammo was extremely limited, with very little choice, exceptionally high prices.
*Cabela's had lots of duck and goose loads also, more choice and less expensive target loads. They had a much better selection of rifle ammo than BPS, and a much better selection of handgun ammo. Prices generally better also
*Sportsman's pretty much had any duck / goose load you'd ever want with seasonal availability, had just about every caliber of modern rifle ammo you could imagine, usually with multiple manufacturers represented, and multiple loads from each manufacturer. Handgun ammo available in bulk quantities with reasonable prices.
BPS (at least the Stapleton one) only ever sold primers by the sleeve, and at the low, low price of $4.99 per 100 - (e.g. $50 per thousand + tax)
Cabela's at least nominally carried the thousand piece bricks, but almost never had them. Also, the price was pretty much in line with BPS--just barely more palatable than buying a single brick online and sucking up the hazmat fee.
Sportsman's was $3.50 per sleeve, and if you bought the whole thousand pack you'd also get 5% off. They generally had a few cases worth of primers at a given time.
Sportsman's was much closer to the price you'd get if you bought in big bulk quantities online and paid the hazmat fees. They also had a wider selection of primers.
Powder:
BPS and Cabelas only ever carried one pound containers, and had poopy selection, even poopier prices.
Sportsman's offered 1 / 4 / 8 pound containers of just about anything you'd want, and generally had it available. Prices couldn't be beat unless you wanted to order 30-48 lbs from an online store and split the hazmat fee with your friends.
Guns:
The last time I went to BPS it was medium to medium-high end fudd gun central. Few handguns aside from Taurus revolvers--but certianly nothing you couldn't get from somewhere else at a drastically better price. Noticed the no MSR / precision target rifles / no sporting shotgun or home defense shotgun policy. It it wasn't strictly designed for shooting doves/pheasants/waterfowl/turkeys or deer, it was clear they wanted nothing to do with it. But hey, suppose you wanted a wildly overpriced Remington 700 CDL chambered for a cartridge the salesman never heard of? Oh man did they have you covered. The one redeeming thing about the place they shuttered -- the high end gun room. Kinda fun to browse and drool on the glass protecting me from stuff I had no business buying. Also, poor selection of rifle scopes.
Cabelas: at least they had MSRs and handguns people would want to buy.
Sportsmans: had good selection of handguns / MSRs / a few decent target rifles / decent sporting shotguns selection. Pretty much anything a guy could want for whatever it was he wanted to do.
Just wanted to add: Murdochs, the hardware / farm / ranch supply / general store has recently put aside a small corner of the store dedicated to guns and gun accessories in many of their stores. They're killing it in terms of the selection of stuff they pack into a tiny area. It's kind of amusing.
Sounds about right. I recall reading somewhere a couple years ago that they were the largest purchaser of firearms after the USG. As a matter of fact I think Cabela's held that distinction prior to BPS buying them.Quote:
Originally Posted by BladesNBarrels
I had heard that before.Quote:
Originally Posted by sroz
I was attending SHOT Show around 2017 and was having breakfast at one of the casino garden cafes.
I was sitting next to a table of about 6 guys talking about a firearms purchase.
One or two of them were from Cabelas and the others were from a major firearm manufacturer.
The buyers were settling some discussions they had obviously had prior to breakfast and agreed to buy over 2,000 of one model at the table, and said they would talk more about the other deals.
The FFL dealer I was with just shook his head and said he couldn't compete with that, since he sold about 500 guns total during a year and the manufacturer required him to go through a distributor.
He said Cabelas would probably have those out to their stores in a week.
I noticed that at Murdochs. Pretty impressive the variety of firearms they could fit into that space.Quote:
Originally Posted by RiderGeek
I always seem to forget about them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gman
We were trying to socialize our puppy at Murdochs pre-Covid. I always seemed to make it by that corner of the store. [Coffee]
More to the point, there will always be a demand for guns so if X stops selling them, Y will pick up the slack. No businessman with a lick of common sense is going to leave all that potential money on the table.Quote:
Originally Posted by BladesNBarrels
Who else is old enough to remember when:
* Sears
* JC Penny
* K-Mart
* Target
* Montgomery Wards (remember them?)
sold guns? It wasn't that long ago - maybe 30 years or so (I know I'm showing my age here. ;) )
EDITED TO ADD: Anyone else buy their first gun at Sears? Mine was a Universal .30 Carbine I bought at the Sears in Columbus, Georgia in 1981 when I was stationed at Fort Benning.
^^I definetly remember those days lol. When we moved to Tucson in 1968 (I was 12) I'd generally be found hanging out in the sporting goods section of Monkey Ward and Sears oogling the rifles and shotguns. My dad found a hardware store he really liked and I remember barrels of rifles for sale. The big gun store in Tucson at the time, now long out of business, also had a big section of used rifles/shotguns in barrels. Same thing when I moved here in 1984, the Dave Cook store on the 16th St Mall had barrels downstairs in the gun department with all kinds of old rifles. Ah, the good old days.
Even the Dave Cooks in Boulder had the rifle barrels in the post-86 surplus explosion.
I bought a Colt Frontier Scout .22 with the 2 cylinders, .22 Mag, .22 LR at McGuckin's Hardware Store in Boulder in the early 70's.
Cheaper than Garts or Dave Cooks at the time.
[blaster]
My Grandfather bought his elk rifle from a McGuckin's manager in the late 50's. I think it was a private sale, but got him an immediate post-war Model 70 in .270 (still has pre-war safety and an Lyman Alaskan 2.5X scope) that I proudly own now. By the time I was cognizant in the 80's, they only sold airguns and ammo. Now it's just airguns, and ammo for .22 and shotgun. Still a great store, however.Quote:
Originally Posted by BladesNBarrels
I lived in boulder off and on since 95-01.
I remember McGuckin's was the ONLY Hardware store available in city of Boulder. Until the 28th st mall renovation/reconstruction and Home depot came in.
There was also Sutherland's on Valmont by the RR tracks until maybe 2010?Quote:
Originally Posted by MrPrena
I use to work about 0.5miles from there ( south of valmont and 30th during late 90s and till end of 2000), and I still forgot to mention Sutherland'sQuote:
Originally Posted by .455_Hunter
Don't feel bad. I pissed in one of their mock bathroom toilets when I was a little kid. Hey, it looked like a bathroom, what did you expect was going to happen?Quote:
Originally Posted by MrPrena
Now, that is a funny story! It would be horrible for staff to clean that up.
:D
Going back to the topic.
I went to Cabelas just to see if there are any ammo left. NONE. Not even 243win. It had those unpopular rounds available as usual. The gun counter had about 4 lookers, and a guy in next to me was taking photograph of a firearm with his phone. I think there were one serious buyer who were couple. By questions they asked the sales staff, they are most likely first time buyer. Friendly staff ( at least the time I was in at 144th)
I can remember when a person could buy a firearm out of a catalog or the back of a magazine and have it delivered by the US Postal Service. There were no mass shootings, there were no school shooting... What the hell happened ??
I have no issues with the staff at Cabela's, or SW. 95% of the time or greater, they are friendly and helpful. The folks at Cabela's are specifically aware of how their store has gone downhill since the acquisition. Even with the limited times I have gone to BP in the past few years, they have also been courteous. Ownership and upper management are the problem, not the staff.
That is progress. [blaster]Quote:
Originally Posted by BREATHER
Walgreens just bought REI !!! Does that mean we can finally get a crampon tampon ???
Cute, but I haven't seen that news anywhere. Got a link?Quote:
Originally Posted by StagLefty
I think he was making a joke
[Coffee]
It's isolation fatigue !!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by BladesNBarrels
Speaking of M&A, I thought there was about 10% probability that walmart is acquiring FedEx. This was when Fedex office is getting into Walmart stores.
Of course WMT not having balls to compete with Amazon, they did not.