Dragonman's Range Accidents (2): Merge of previous threads on this subject

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06-18-2012, 16:36
tmckay2

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Originally Posted by sniper7

Yeah I am pretty sure Mel has a felony conviction.

a lot like Rich @ Gunsmoke, and a lot like Will @ Red Jacket. Seems like a pre-req[Eek3]

Are they even legally able to use/handle the weapons with a felony? I thought there were rules about close relatives not handing off weapons to felon family members but maybe I'm wrong.
06-18-2012, 16:37
SuperiorDG

Was having breakfast Saturday morning and beside me at the bar was the Manager of GS. He told me that this accident had nothing to do with American Guns.
06-18-2012, 16:55
sniper7

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmckay2

Are they even legally able to use/handle the weapons with a felony? I thought there were rules about close relatives not handing off weapons to felon family members but maybe I'm wrong.

I'll start a new thread on this topic so as not to derail this one.
06-18-2012, 19:12
TS12000

That's a crazy 48 hours, prayers to all those touched by these incidents.
06-25-2012, 03:41
Clay Turner

My info comes second-hand from my NRA instructor, a close friend of the Dragonman family who posed this question to Terry, because his students were asking him about the rumor of a felony conviction.

Terry told him that when Mel and Terry started the business, they agreed that he would run the motorcycle biz and she would handle the firearms side (I was photographing some of their firearms for NRA once when UPS delivered 15 Harley top ends to Mel's machine shop). At the funeral, it was mentioned more than once that she was the "brains" of the operation: it sounds like she was more tolerant of the paperwork- and computer-intensive nature of the FFL license.

Terry denied that Mel had any sort of record that would prevent him from having an FFL. I heard last week ... I believe from Mel ... they were working with BATFE to get all the licensing transferred to Mel.

First-hand, I know Mel to be a hard-working, generous and fascinating guy who has built a successful biz with his family out of nothing. He's always treated my friends and family very well, and he's never had trouble with the BATFE, that I know of. He told me that this is the first accident there in 30 years.

For me and my family and friends, we intend to return his and Terry's goodwill by continuing to support Dragonman's. I hope all reading this will consider doing the same; they could use the support.

Thanks.
06-25-2012, 05:24
josh7328

wow. I bought my very first AR from them.
06-25-2012, 05:43
rondog

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clay Turner

My info comes second-hand from my NRA instructor, a close friend of the Dragonman family who posed this question to Terry, because his students were asking him about the rumor of a felony conviction.

Terry told him that when Mel and Terry started the business, they agreed that he would run the motorcycle biz and she would handle the firearms side (I was photographing some of their firearms for NRA once when UPS delivered 15 Harley top ends to Mel's machine shop). At the funeral, it was mentioned more than once that she was the "brains" of the operation: it sounds like she was more tolerant of the paperwork- and computer-intensive nature of the FFL license.

Terry denied that Mel had any sort of record that would prevent him from having an FFL. I heard last week ... I believe from Mel ... they were working with BATFE to get all the licensing transferred to Mel.

First-hand, I know Mel to be a hard-working, generous and fascinating guy who has built a successful biz with his family out of nothing. He's always treated my friends and family very well, and he's never had trouble with the BATFE, that I know of. He told me that this is the first accident there in 30 years.

For me and my family and friends, we intend to return his and Terry's goodwill by continuing to support Dragonman's. I hope all reading this will consider doing the same; they could use the support.

Thanks.

I'm glad your experiences with him have been positive. First-hand, I know a far different side of Mel Bernstein, and so do hundreds, maybe thousands of other guys. And our experiences are way over on the negative side. Let him rebuild an engine for you.
06-25-2012, 07:27
Great-Kazoo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clay Turner

My info comes second-hand from my NRA instructor, a close friend of the Dragonman family who posed this question to Terry, because his students were asking him about the rumor of a felony conviction.

Terry told him that when Mel and Terry started the business, they agreed that he would run the motorcycle biz and she would handle the firearms side (I was photographing some of their firearms for NRA once when UPS delivered 15 Harley top ends to Mel's machine shop). At the funeral, it was mentioned more than once that she was the "brains" of the operation: it sounds like she was more tolerant of the paperwork- and computer-intensive nature of the FFL license.

Terry denied that Mel had any sort of record that would prevent him from having an FFL. I heard last week ... I believe from Mel ... they were working with BATFE to get all the licensing transferred to Mel.

First-hand, I know Mel to be a hard-working, generous and fascinating guy who has built a successful biz with his family out of nothing. He's always treated my friends and family very well, and he's never had trouble with the BATFE, that I know of. He told me that this is the first accident there in 30 years.

For me and my family and friends, we intend to return his and Terry's goodwill by continuing to support Dragonman's. I hope all reading this will consider doing the same; they could use the support.

Thanks.

There are also different kinds of felonies, violent and non. I personally know 2 people who had NON-violent felonies that now own guns, legally (4473'D ETC). They had to wait 10 years for their issues to be resolved, the state said 7 and feds 10 years before applying.
I've known Mel & Mike on & off since 74. Good bad indifferent, it all depends on your personal experience with them, people do change.
Regarding motorcycle rebuilding, when it was just MELvin working out of a 600sq ft shop, in NY, it was all GTG. Once he started bringing on help things went south.
06-26-2012, 10:19
cofi

maybe we should set up an coar range day for the weekend???
06-26-2012, 10:26
Clay Turner

I'd be up for that ... especially if I'm forced to evacuate. :)
06-26-2012, 11:44
TEAMRICO

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Originally Posted by cofi

maybe we should set up an coar range day for the weekend???

Not THIS weekend![Tooth]
I will be in Vegas!!!!
06-26-2012, 14:07
theGinsue

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clay Turner

First-hand, I know Mel to be a hard-working, generous and fascinating guy who has built a successful biz with his family out of nothing. He's always treated my friends and family very well, and he's never had trouble with the BATFE, that I know of.

I'm glad to hear that you've had good experiences with Mel over the years. I wish I could say the same.

My interactions with him have been limited, but about 30% of the times I've dealt with him, out of nowhere I've been the recipient of a nasty attitude and just flat out rude treatment. Because there was no reason for the attitude, those times have over-shadowed the times when I was treated like a customer/guest. While I continue to go to Dragonman's when the situation warrants it, I try to keep those visits to a minimum. I typically don't like to go where I'm not wanted.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clay Turner

He told me that this is the first accident there in 30 years.

Well, that statement totally discounts the accident they had the day before the accident that took Terry's life. I'd say the results of the Wednesday accident would be sufficient enough to take note of.

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** UPDATE **
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Lacy was finally released from the burn center on Sunday and she is continuing her recovery at home.

While she'd still experiencing quite a bit of pain from her burns, the meds the doctors have provided have helped to mitigate the pain. Before the burn center would release her she had to demonstrate that she could change her own dressings without experiencing too much pain.

Her spirits are really good and she has a great outlook and can't wait to get back to shooting but her injuries are still taking a bit out of her so it won't be happening immediately.

Good news in my opinion.
06-26-2012, 14:45
BPTactical

Thanks for the update Thomas-next time you chat with her send our regards please.
[Beer]
06-26-2012, 14:52
cofi

glad to hear she is out!! so do we know what exactly happened yet?
06-26-2012, 15:09
Akyla

I have no idea how I missed the multiple threads on this. Wow...blind I guess.

Terrible set of events. Feel terrible for Terry and her family and hope for a speedy recovery of Lacy.
06-26-2012, 15:19
patrick0685

good to here Thomas
06-26-2012, 17:15
OneGuy67

Quote:

Originally Posted by BPTactical

Thanks for the update Thomas-next time you chat with her send our regards please.
[Beer]

Yes, same here.
06-26-2012, 23:30
theGinsue

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Originally Posted by cofi

glad to hear she is out!! so do we know what exactly happened yet?

Not yet. I was thinking that I'd give her a call this weekend.

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