My ex almost took offense to that...she only had 7 toesQuote:
Originally Posted by trlcavscout
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My ex almost took offense to that...she only had 7 toesQuote:
Originally Posted by trlcavscout
A seven-toe'd midget. What are her other talents?[ROFL1]
This is America where the intolerant are mostly tolerated, except by the intolerant and where the hateful are hated by those that don't hate.
Did I say that right?
I can understand posting it on here I guess but that is as far as I would go personally, I had a really cool gun sign stolen from me and I just wrote it off as I should have had it protected better. As far is this making the news I find it pretty ridiculous, I mean come on really? I personally would not have wasted the time of Law enforcement with such a petty little thing, especially when they could be out doing something important, and if I did I would have went in on my time, if you did then forget I said anything. As far as you looking for attention like a few people have said I do not know, it does look that way but who knows. I mean what really makes you think it out to be a hate crime? Don't get me wrong it was wrong for someone to steal your property, but don't you think you are taking it to far? Now I am not trying to be a jerk I just am trying to make a point I guess. It sucks that you had your property stolen but it happens. Report it and move on just like everyone else does.
If the guy and his wife want to worship satan, thats fine, it's none of my business. When he posts a sign to vote for satan, thats making a political statement, and objecting to a political statement doesn't qualify as a hate crime, IMO. It would be the same as saying Vote for Jesus, or Vote for Mohammed, etc. To me, this smells of "Look at Me!" You got the attention you wished, and you didnt like the outcome. In a perfect world, no one would step on each other's toes, but this isn't, and when you rub something as volatile as that, in someone's face, you're asking for trouble. It would be the same as a KKK member marching around in his yard... in Compton,lol. Your rights end where someone else's begins, and making a political statement is inviting someone to make their own, at your dispense. If you dont like the attention, don't seek it. Simple enough. You already know the religion is frowned upon in a country built on, and based on christian faith. You dont see me moving to Saudi Arabia and bible beating there, right?
Id tell you but your pants might ripQuote:
Originally Posted by sneakerd
In before lock down.
[Pop][Beer]
What is the white blow-up thing on the left side of the house?
I like to think I'm fairly open minded but that visual hurt my mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by trlcavscout
They are out at pawnee kneeding gas.Quote:
Originally Posted by sniper7
Ooooooh- streetglide said it all reeeallly well.
W.W.J.D.? Sorry had too...
they didnt call her dyson the ball cleaner for nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by sniper7
The very concept of a Hate Crime is stupid. Thank you Luigi for making an effort to point out how dumb hate crimes are.
He sure did I could not have said it better myself, he hit the nail on the head IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by sneakerd
This is very interesting...
Like others have said, I may not agree with his religion, but I'd stand beside him to defend his right to worship as he chooses.
One thing that bugs me, is when people make it a point to belittle or degrade someone else's religion. I'm not a Buddist or a Muslim, but I wouldn't put a bumper sticker on my car mocking Buddha or Mohammed. When people put stickers up that mock another's symbol, (i.e., the Darwin fish eating a Jesus fish), I don't think it's a person simply expressing their beliefs, I see it as a small-minded, mean-spirited attack on someone else's beliefs - Two different things. I don't understand why someone would get off by publicly ridiculing another's religious choices, whatever they are.
I'm not sure if the "Christmas tree that has been painted black" is an example of this or not. I hope not.
Did anyone else not initially click on this thread because they thought this was the thread about Hoser being on the news earlier this year? I can't find the thread at the moment, but I thought it had a similar title.
Yeap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
Lol, like running speed-traps?Quote:
Originally Posted by Atrain1
I hope this gets blown out of proportion. It would definitely be awesome.
I made the news not to long ago when we had one of the worst snow storms we have ever had. I was driving a hopped up Firebird Formula and the news lady could not believe it, so she asked me if she could interview me. I thought it was pretty funny and so did a lot of my friends, I had people I did not even know stop and talk to me when they spotted the car.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
Ding Ding Ding THANK YOU! [Beer]Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
Yes, it is stupid!
BUT, if this protection is offered to other minorities (which it should NOT), I am entitled to the same stupid protection.
Or am I lesser than a Jew, a Muslim, a Black calling hate crime when her kid gets shot by a "White Hispanic" or an Hispanic calling being asked to wear a seat belt like everybody else "racial profiling"???
How is this different from hanging a noose or spraypanting anti semitic slogans?
Still no phisical confrontation but I would go under he radar because I am "unsightly" and FuckHead Al Sharpton is not on my side.
I thought I made it pretty clear in the interview: other religions are protected, mine is no less.
Thanks to those who understand, I am trying to make a point here!
If this were a koran that was tossed out of a car the owner had CAIR would be there is [20 min] or less:) decrying the intolerance the White Christian neighbors had, towards this poor unfortunate muslim.Quote:
Originally Posted by bellavite1
Nope you're not out of line, unfortunately just as you mentioned in one of those "protected" religious sects.
Originally Posted by sneakerd http://www.ar-15.co/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif
Ooooooh- streetglide said it all reeeallly well.
[Thanks]Quote:
Originally Posted by Atrain1
Have I mentioned that "I Hate Crime!" [Coffee]
Vandalism is a misdemeanor, as is trespassing. Was there a dollar figure given for the sign? I will kick in $10 for replacement cost.
I appreciate this, but it is a $25 deal, no worries![Beer]Quote:
Originally Posted by cstone
Replacement already on its way (and game camera purchased, I just have to figure out how to conceal it without blocking the lens, infrared flash and movement sensor-any suggestion?).
However, if somebody wants to make a campaign like for the school bus monitor, raise a few hundred thousand dollars and send me on early retirement, it would be greatly appreciated...[Tooth]
Holy shit 105 posts! And that is without counting the OP![Help]
Don't say I don't keep you guys entertained...
news... wow... still reading thread lol..
after reading the whole thing, I could quote at least 15 of these posts and laugh out loud to them... this thread has me rolling....
news might be a bit much.. but I can actually appreciate drawing attention to how stupid the idea of "hate" crime is...
and yeah, glad my neighbors houses dont look like that.. but hell... good for you Luigi! lol....
Well, just got a call from Lance Hernandez at 7 news...
More of my ugly face on your tv I am afraid...
Let's see if we can make some more waves on this whole hate crime bullshit.
My apologies to those of you who feel irritated by this, but I have to stick to my guns.
Might be a good evening to go to the movies rather than watch tv...
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Originally Posted by bellavite1
Now I am one of those hard right Christians everyone always talk about. I might not agree with your views and theology, but that's the great thing about America. However, I know my faith and understand the saying, "hate the sin, love the sinner". I actually completely agree with your moves on resolving this one Luigi. ANY crime is bad.
I have to address this... Contrary to popular belief, Jefferson did NOT support Christianity, he was a very outspoken agnostic, and didn't support one religion over another- He even went as far as saying something to the effect of "The 'in God we trust' is not talking about one god in particular but any god you freely choose to believe in."Quote:
Originally Posted by streetglideok
Luigi, never met you, but I hope to change that someday, stick to your guns buddy! I support anyone's freedom to practice whatever religion they want... I don't care if it's Satanism, Norse Paganism, Jewish, or Jedi, this is the land of freedom and we can't pick which freedom gets special treatment or not based on our agreement with it or lack thereof. Let's just imagine for two seconds if this was a "Vote Mohammad" sign, or maybe a "Vote Krishna" sign, would it be any different? I don't see how it would be. That's the beauty of living here. As far as "looking for attention" this hypocracy needs to be brought to light, hate crimes are silly and this whole thing is pointing that out. And if it's a religion you don't agree with, tough. I don't agree with Islam, but it's not my place to vandalize mosques and Muslim's homes...
This story now is on the front page of Drudge.
The story is on Drudge now. Your going nation wide now.
Dang, you really are a celebrity now.
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Originally Posted by Ronin13
Actually you may want to look into "The Jefferson Lies" by David Barton before you make that statement. He puts a pretty big question mark into the perceived history and believes of TJ.
Just another side of the story to consider.
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Originally Posted by Rooskibar03
Clay Jenkinson, the guy who does the Thomas Jefferson Hour ripped Bartons book up pretty well.
Exactly!Quote:
Originally Posted by bellavite1
Although some people complain about a thread/situation, but this type of thread is entertaining for members.
However, I hope you or your local police find that punk@ss kid who did that to your property.
Another note. Yes, the sign might just cost $25.
It is core ethics , value, and principle.
I have a US flag I bought for $1 at walmart in front of my lawn. If someone mess around with my flag, I would be unhappy.
I don't care it is Baptist or Baathist flag, they better not mess around with my $1 flag inside my property.
BTW, I guess HOA neighborhood does pay off sometimes.
That hack Barton puts a pretty big question mark into the concept of universal reality. Instead of assembling the facts to form an opinion, he forms his facts to support his opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rooskibar03
I especially question his treatment (or lack thereof) of Jefferson's rewriting of the King James Bible, wherein Jefferson excised the theology from the text, and Barton's entire interpretation of Jefferson's role in the Aiken Bible affair... best to put this book in the 'historical fiction' section. (I happen to also support this review of Barton and his book:
http://www.au.org/blogs/wall-of-sepa...on-of-whoppers)
Anyway, back to task. Now that this is nationwide, this Epicurean wants to know when the Satanist is doing "Good Morning America"? And when you get your own reality show are you going to invite us to the shoot-out episode with Colorado Guns?
Well said. That's what it really boils down to. It's not the content of what was on the property, it's not the underlying message or any of that, it's that someone trespassed onto Luigi's property and did something destructive to his property. Doesn't matter if it was a flag, a poster, a sign, or a wooden sculpture, vandalism/destruction of property is still illegal and wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrPrena