Very well put sniper7.Quote:
Originally Posted by theGinsue
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Very well put sniper7.Quote:
Originally Posted by theGinsue
I acknowledged that some roads have a minimum speed posted, but since it was not mentioned once in this case, I think it's a safe conjecture that there was no posted minimum on this road.... That being said, you are completely right about everything else you said. I'm certainly not defending the cyclists, but since they are "vehicles" that have to obey the laws of the road, they should have pulled over or yielded to the faster traffic. Simple as that.Quote:
Originally Posted by sniper7
I saw a bicyclist get a ticket for 'failure to obey' when he blew threw a stop sign.. it was on CU campus.. CU PD was my hero that day.
Now that's the best damn idea I've ever heard! I see it in Denver all the time and one of these days they're going to get creamed (I'm very fearful that I'll be the one to do it and get sued). What the hell? Maybe there needs to be some letter writing to our state legislature for more of an eye turned to this issue and perhaps educating the public a little better that if they disregard the law they could die. We don't need more laws (well maybe a licensing requirement to have a bike on roads), but we do need more attention on things like this.Quote:
Originally Posted by sniper7you should set up a cam and send it to the boulder police. email it to them and the boulder camera every day all day. maybe some state senators and congressman and get a bill set up to put these asshats in their place. either follow the laws of the road or get off it.Quote:
Originally Posted by hatidua
While this will be unpopular with a certain percentage of you, I'm just going to put this out there - I do NOT think cyclists belong on the road. PERIOD. It is my opinion that they are a nuisance and are dangerous to themselves and those who are operating licensed motor vehicles which was the intended vehicle for road use.
Colorado has hundreds of miles of combination biking and hiking trails that are accessable to most residents.
I've encountered cyclists on Hwy 94 (65mph limit - which is the average speed for automotive drivers) as I've been heading to or from work. While a few of them have used the WIDE shoulder to ride in, many have ridden at the ride side of the traffic lane - sometimes 2 feet to the left of the line. When I'm still rubbing sleep goo out of my eyes in the morning, driving 65mph with 5 cars close enough behind me to give me an enema and I come upon a cyclist in the roadway pushing 45mph and I can't pass due to oncoming traffic, I get a bit peeved and spooked. Laying on the brakes to avoid hitting the cyclist puts me and the other drivers behind me (and oncoming) at risk for the accident that I've narrowly avoided on a few occassions. One such person was a former coworker who was kind enough to educate me (once he arrived at work) about how it's his "right" to be there and it's actually less safe and illegal for him to ride on the shoulder. I would have really hated having the whole shop out of the office for his funeral as I looked his wife in the eyes and told her that his "right" created the situation that got him killed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronin13
Here in the Springs, there is a section of 31st Street that runs across Garden of the Gods Road past Fontanero. This section of road runs past the Garden of the Gods Visitor Center & main entrance. It has a 30 (or 35) mph speed limit and is very narrow, very curvy and with NO shoulder. Passing on this road is limited. Just ~50 feet from this stretch of road, running essentially parallel, is a hiking/bike path. Almost every time I need to drive this road I encounter a cyclist on the road. These folks seem to get their jollies by exercising their "right" to ride on the road and create an avoidable hazardous situation. If I thought doing 30/35 mph on this stretch of road seemed slow, it's nothing compared to sitting behind a cyclist doing 20 or less (often times 15). WTF!
True, sadly there aren't many roadways with posted minimum speed limits. However, there are laws about impeding the flow of traffic. Let's face it, most folks use the speed limit as the "this is the speed you should be driving", I know I do. Anything less tends to create traffic backups, etc. All this means is that a hazardous situation is brewing and someone could be injured or killed because of it. I certainly wish there was more LE involvement (even a simple warning) for those who impede traffic. It's just as dangerous as speeding is because you're getting concentrations of cars; it's only a matter of time before someone screws up.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoneyBadger
I'm certainly not siding with the bicyclists here, I find most of them to be incredibly arrogant about "their rights" and such BS, and they tend to piss me off. I'm just saying that the SUV in the video certainly appeared to have plenty of room to just pass right by 'em, even without going over the double yellow line. Just makes more sense to me to pass 'em and get away from 'em rather than hang right behind 'em honkin' my horn like a fool.
Reminds me of these two fucktards that were behind me one day when I-25 still had an HOV lane. I was going well over the speed limit in the HOV lane, and these two wads were behind me honking and waving at me to move over. So I moved over, but they didn't speed up, they stayed in the HOV lane at the same speed, glaring at me because I dared to be a solo driver in THEIR HOV lane. Apparently they felt the need to be HOV lane police or whatever, but weren't smart enough to realize that the HOV rules were only for certain times of the day, and it was 2.5 hours outside that window.
Some peoples kids......
There is no way he could pass them with 3 feet of space as mandated by the law and not cross the double yellow line. None. It certainly seemed safe to cross the line to pass them but that wouldn't have been legal.Quote:
Originally Posted by rondog
I've seen Boulder PD ticket douche bags on bikes for running stop signs... I love those cops... :D
It makes mine, and I wasn't even there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monky
Okay, new invention time. Directional bluetooth connectivity so that you can actually talk into another nearby car's sound system to "explain" things to them live.Quote:
Originally Posted by rondog
Actually pretty easy to do with a UHF transmitter. Only trouble would be getting the FCC to sign off on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rucker61
Don't know if it has been posted yet but they ticketed the SUV driver.
The Colorado State Patrol has issued a citation to a driver who allegedly followed and harassed bicyclists in Boulder County.
75-year-old James Ernst of Erie, Colo. is charged with two counts of harassment, one count of impeding the flow of traffic, and one count of improper use of a horn or warning device.
Dirk Friel, a bicyclist, posted a video on a website on Sunday showing the driver slowly trailing the cyclists as the driver repeatedly honked the horn at them throughout the two-minute clip.
Friel tells the Longmont Times-Call he was worried the driver would cause an accident. He says his biking companion had to use his hand to push off as the vehicle finally passed them.
http://www.kktv.com/home/headlines/M...tml?mobile=yes
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...82065658_n.jpg
Now who ya gonna side with?[ROFL1]
Now HE received a ticket for impeding traffic when the entire video was a double yellow line? That doesn't sound like mob justice at all. Enough people bitch loud enough and they're get anything these days. Someone stop this ride because I want off. I don't even want to play anymore.
All he had to do was go around them like he would anything else. If there was a dead elk on the side of the lane, and you can't go around it without crossing the double yellow lines, are you supposed to run it over or stop and honk at it?
EDIT: I don't think he should have gotten a ticket, for the record.
that is an absolutely terrible example....Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
I know I would stop and if that thing was fresh that thing would be in my freezer. You can't do that with a biker[Tooth]
lolz.
I have the misfortune of driving into Denver daily. Not all but many cyclists do not obey the rules of the road. I have experienced every kind of stupid there is to offer from these clowns; blowing through intersections, racing between stopped cars, crossing multiple lanes through the sidewalk and back onto the road, you name it. One day I was crossing a road with construction, cars lined up but not blocking my cross street so I proceed across. Well, knowing these idiots, I watch for it...sure enough, some dumbass is racing through cars and meets me in the intersection...fortunately for him, I stopped. I saw four cyclists get hit this summer. So many of them just don't follow the rules of the road; it is hard to anticipate what they are going to do. Of course, there are some who do follow the rules and wonder why motorists are annoyed; well, talk to the morons creating problems. If the light turns red...STOP! I also get frustrated with them on our mountain highways especially with a trailer; I have no idea what they are doing on a highly traveled highway in the first place. Even though I hold a great deal of annoyance, I don't go off or endanger them like this guy. However, I bet this guy is annoyed for a reason.
I drive in Denver a lot and I hate 90% of the cycle-lists there. Most seem to be homeless or poor people but they still don't follow the rules of the road. Here is a video I took last winter of one running 2 stop signs. I was following him for a few blocks and he ran like 3 or 4 before I got the camera out.
Asshole, never called her.
:confused: Huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by FastMan
assume the person in the truck is a disgruntled former one-night-stand for one of the cyclists.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronin13
Looks like this Ass got tracked down and charged.
http://www.9news.com/news/local/arti...-with-SUV-horn
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Originally Posted by fitz19d
http://crayfisher.files.wordpress.co...pg?w=300&h=225
My phone saw this thread come back ti life and has "facepalm" flashing now
I love how the news agency found a law enforcement official willing to state that the driver should have broken a law by passing on a VERY clearly marked double yellow. The purpose of a double yellow line is to indicate an area that is unsafe for passing regardless of oncoming traffic status. Perhaps if they weren't so keen on making EVERYTHING too dangerous by law that would be a yellow dotted line and allow motorists to make their own decision. That guy could have passed and we wouldn't be talking about this stupid story still. You know it's bad in the way of too many laws when a guy is actually cited for NOT breaking the law and someone tasked with upholding the law is saying he's silly for not just breaking the law. Really? The funny part is that guy would have been cited if he DID pass for passing in a no passing zone. I'd say it's about time we took our society back.
I still think the driver got railroaded because the cyclists have too much power in Boulder. <shrug> One more reason to stay the hell away from Boulder.
I am glad he got charged. He was a jerk. It was justified he did not get railroaded, it was harassment, anyone who acts like that is irrational and needs to stay away from others freedoms.
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Originally Posted by FJoakley
Even though this happened east of Longmont?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter
I happen thru Boulder often and work in down town Denver. I also spend a fair amount of time in Erie, Superior, Louisville, and Lafayette.
On a daily basis I see bicyclists run red lights and stop signs without even looking to see if there is traffic coming. On a weekly basis I see bicyclists riding 2 and 3 abrest. And if you honk at them then they get angry with you. On about a 2 week basis I have them swerve out in front of me.
Bicyclists have NO business riding on roads that do not have a dedicated bike lane. Frankly they should only be allowed on dedicated bike trails.
It doesn't matter how safely a bicyclist is riding, they are a hazard to trafic.
We have all seen the backlash against groups like the ATVs riders who have made a nuicense of themselves. That is your future if bicyclists continue to behave the way they do.
As for the video...who knows what the bicyclists had done prior to the filming. Moreover, for every incident like this where a driver is a problem, there is probably 100 where a bicyclist is the problem.
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Originally Posted by WETWRKS
+1
When it's warm and those guys are out riding i see everything you described. That desn't mean they are all assclowns with tight pants. But they should only be able to ride on roads with bike lanes. I always see motorists that have to swerve into the opposite lanes to get around the yahoos. They are a nuisance when they get in the way of motorists on the highway. However, our politicians love bicyclists, Since they bring a little revenue and tourism to the state. That is what they will tell you.
I think they should have to get registration,plates, license classifications, insurance and pay road vehicle tax just like any other vehicle on the road.
that guy was a douche, im glad we have bike lanes on 95% of our road around here
So now being a douche is enough to warrant a citation? If that's the case there's not enough trees in the world to create the paper needed. This country feels less & less like America every day.Quote:
Originally Posted by patrick0685
just enforcing the traffic laws for bikes would go a long way. those already exist. no need for more regulationsQuote:
Originally Posted by Byte Stryke