Gonna be a mess - got an excuse to agitate

I was stunned by the correct spelling, punctuation, and sentence structure.

Here's a side of law enforcement I can get behind (Polk County Florida):
http://youtu.be/kQF2SFz0A0I

California liquor store owner uses AR-15 to protect his property from looters in George Floyd unrest

I'm thinking, "AR-15? California? Really?"

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Originally Posted by VDW

Actually, I?m not. I?m also not a fan of calling in the National Guard. If you can?t stomach trained law enforcement trying to clear the streets and defending themselves when attacked, I can?t imagine you?re going to be any happier with how military personnel who likely have little or zero training in law and the enforcement thereof. Should anything get violent you are going to call for them to be arrested. Not fair to them or the citizens, IMO.

I?m also concerned about the naming of a domestic group (ANTIFA) as a terrorist organization. I don?t like the precedent any of this sets for future administrations. Many libs have repeatedly called groups like the NRA a terrorist organization, and I assume they wouldn?t blink twice about naming anyone who is a member of a group like this the same. Aggressively target them for their criminal activity under RICO, similar to our targeting of MS13.

My .02.

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IMHO this is a basic admission of fascism in the administration, declaring a movement that is against fascism as terrorists. ANTIFA is a portmanteau of anti-fascists, there is no larger group or organization, and the designation will be used to evade the Constitution.

Anybody cheering these anti-1st activities on should consider what would happen should it be anti-2nd, and if (when?) unrest gets bad enough that a curfew turns to disarmament. Imagine the response of these bumbling clowns who open fire with pepperspray balls at people standing on their private property, toss teargas at people standing around with signs, or do drivebys with rubber bullets on innocents -- would do when the 'other' is armed.

If you're against the government suggesting you wear a mask but favor the government cracking down on POC, it's pretty obvious you're only OK with masks if they're big white and pointy.

Fun fact: 93 years and 3 days ago, Donald Trump's father was arrested at a Klan rally.

You're doing a LOT of projecting Phil.

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Originally Posted by DeusExMachina

IMHO this is a basic admission of fascism in the administration, declaring a movement that is against fascism as terrorists. ANTIFA is a portmanteau of anti-fascists, there is no larger group or organization, and the designation will be used to evade the Constitution.

Anybody cheering these anti-1st activities on should consider what would happen should it be anti-2nd, and if (when?) unrest gets bad enough that a curfew turns to disarmament. Imagine the response of these bumbling clowns who open fire with pepperspray balls at people standing on their private property, toss teargas at people standing around with signs, or do drivebys with rubber bullets on innocents -- would do when the 'other' is armed.

If you're against the government suggesting you wear a mask but favor the government cracking down on POC, it's pretty obvious you're only OK with masks if they're big white and pointy.

Fun fact: 93 years and 3 days ago, Donald Trump's father was arrested at a Klan rally.

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I learned three things from this post:

1. the definition of "portmanteau" and I'm not sure the poster is using it properly
2. the poster doesn't understand the term "fascist" or "fascism"...I know he's not using that term properly (though, to be fair, most people don't know what this word really means and don't use it properly)
3. I'll just keep the third thing to myself...

So basically we are under martial law. When the military is deployed domestically with firearms and other weapons, it is martial law. The mainstream media won't call it martial law, but it is.
I still think business owners should be legally allowed to use force to protect their property. They have to pay a business license fee & taxes, but they do not get the protection they pay for.

Who's this "we" you're talking about?

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Originally Posted by DeusExMachina

IMHO this is a basic admission of fascism in the administration, declaring a movement that is against fascism as terrorists. ANTIFA is a portmanteau of anti-fascists, there is no larger group or organization, and the designation will be used to evade the Constitution.

Anybody cheering these anti-1st activities on should consider what would happen should it be anti-2nd, and if (when?) unrest gets bad enough that a curfew turns to disarmament. Imagine the response of these bumbling clowns who open fire with pepperspray balls at people standing on their private property, toss teargas at people standing around with signs, or do drivebys with rubber bullets on innocents -- would do when the 'other' is armed.

If you're against the government suggesting you wear a mask but favor the government cracking down on POC, it's pretty obvious you're only OK with masks if they're big white and pointy.

Fun fact: 93 years and 3 days ago, Donald Trump's father was arrested at a Klan rally.

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you pull this from the Daily Kos? We know you don't like trump, we get it.
But come on pointy hats. so anyone here who didn't wear a face mask to go out during the so called pandemic is a racist?

you're $%^&* wayyyyyyyyyyy out there. Or have that mask on too tight, it's stopped oxygen from getting to your brain.

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Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy

So basically we are under martial law. When the military is deployed domestically with firearms and other weapons, it is martial law. The mainstream media won't call it martial law, but it is.
I still think business owners should be legally allowed to use force to protect their property. They have to pay a business license fee & taxes, but they do not get the protection they pay for.

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OMG... Now we're under martial law? Some of you guys need to get a grip.

Civil law has not been suspended. Civil rights have not been suspended. Habeas corpus has not been suspended. You are not subject to military tribunal should you violate a law. These things are what martial law looks like. Are these things happening in your town or state? Didn't think so.

The National Guard, or even US military, being deployed to assist in an emergency to assist local law enforcement in some hard hit areas does not equal martial law. When the NG or military is deployed to assist with national disasters does anyone cry "martial law"?

Business owners can use force to defend their property. The ability to do that is well articulated in Colorado statutes.