ELECTION 2014 - Merged Threads

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Originally Posted by MED

A complete repeal of the Universal Background Check is unlikely and is likely permanent; I was just hoping it would be amended in the next four years which is impossible now. I doubt that any gun initiative UBGC, mag law, or both will pass in Colorado during a presidential year.

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Even if Hickenlooper lost the UBGC would be here to stay. Repealing it would be political suicide due to the fact that the majority of people, including many gun owners support the law.

The magazine law on the other hand would have been overturned. Either way, I never thought Beauprez had a chance. The numbers in this state simply don't support a republican candidate winning a gubernatorial election unless something big happens.

Colorado is becoming far less of a swing state. I fully expect Hillary to take the state in the presidential election. New California is here to stay.

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Originally Posted by .455_Hunter

It's interesting that there are 1700 more votes in the Governor's race than the Senate race. Hum, why would you vote in one and not the other? Tin foil hat time- how many ballots needed to be filled out to ensure Hick wins?

Also, why would you split ticket Gardner and Hick?

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Gardner was a much better candidate and pulled far more independents in the metro area. He was endorsed by the Denver Post, which is important to some of the metro area voters. I have no idea how many ballots were fraudulent.

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Originally Posted by BigDee

Even if Hickenlooper lost the UBGC would be here to stay. Repealing it would be political suicide due to the fact that the majority of people, including many gun owners support the law.

The magazine law on the other hand would have been overturned. Either way, I never thought Beauprez had a chance. The numbers in this state simply don't support a republican candidate winning a gubernatorial election unless something big happens.

Colorado is becoming far less of a swing state. I fully expect Hillary to take the state in the presidential election. New California is here to stay.

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There are only 11,000 votes separating the two; protest votes could have easily made up the difference, which I see as pretty disheartening coming from gun owners who were thoroughly screwed in 2013.

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Originally Posted by MED

There are only 11,000 votes separating the two; protest votes could have easily made up the difference.

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I know a lot of "protest" voters who would rather see a D in office than an R in office so I don't think trying to count them as potential votes for the R candidate is a reasonable assumption.

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Originally Posted by BigDee

I know a lot of "protest" voters who would rather see a D in office than an R in office so I don't think trying to count them as potential votes for the R candidate is a reasonable assumption.

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The Pueblo recall voted in a Republican in a district that was over 70% Democrat because even they understood the significance. There really is no excuse for Gun Owners on this particular race. I work with a Libertarian who voted Libertarian all the way down the ballot except for the Governor's race; this was important.

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Originally Posted by .455_Hunter

It's interesting that there are 1700 more votes in the Governor's race than the Senate race. Hum, why would you vote in one and not the other? Tin foil hat time- how many ballots needed to be filled out to ensure Hick wins?

Also, why would you split ticket Gardner and Hick?

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They said Larimer, Jefferson, and Arapahoe counties supported Gardner but supported Hick. I don't understand it either.

Bear in mind that voter law shenanigans and vote fraud probably pushed Hickenlooper over the edge by a wider margin than a few paltry libertarian votes.

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Originally Posted by battle_sight_zero

Well I am hoping for something put forward to the voters in the next election cycle that overturns the laws put in place in 2013. A November 2015 vote for such a measure would be perfect.

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There are people still hoping for that?! [ROFL1] I guess some people are a lot more optimistic that me.

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Originally Posted by Justin

Bear in mind that voter law shenanigans and vote fraud probably pushed Hickenlooper over the edge by a wider margin than a few paltry libertarian votes.

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As of right now, Mathew Hess has 33,513 votes, which is almost triple the current margin of victory; I am not reaching to far out on a limb to say that almost all of those people were pissed about what happen in 2013.

I believe because our state is doing fairly well rebounding from the economic downturn many did not see why Hick should loose his job. They don't have the intelligence to put together the Dem's attack on the industry (gas, oil and coal) via the EPA that will pop our balloon. Then it will be too late because no backbone Hic will roll over like he did with his non decision not to put to death Dunlap. But it is going down to the wire and there may still be a chance.