Private Party Tranafer Question.

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Originally Posted by BigDee

So I spoke to another FFL that's not far from me and he told me he only charges $20. He said it should only be $10 for the background and he can only charge $10 for the transfer under the new law. He also said he does not put the firearm on his books he just processes the 4473.

I'm now wondering if my FFL neighbor puts the transfer on his books as a loophole around the $10 maximum he is legally allowed to charge and considers the transaction a consignment deal.

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Yep, ten for the bgc, ten for the transfer, any gunstore can charge any service fee after this they deem fit. This has all been danced before. $10 won't even cover the time of the labor involved and the Fn Dem who wrote the law know it. It's another step to stop individual transfers. It's actually pretty smart; either they undercharge and take it in the pocketbook or charge an aditional service fee and have room temp IQ customers throw a fit. Either way they have thrown their wooden shoes into the gear-work every time someone does a private transfer.

BTW, they HAVE to enter the firearm into their bound books. If they don't they are not actually transferring it and not following the ATF guidance previously posted in this and other recent threads.

Maybe this has been answered but if I ship a rifle out of state, can I send the mag with it?

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Originally Posted by speedysst

Maybe this has been answered but if I ship a rifle out of state, can I send the mag with it?

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As long as its legal where you're shipping to (so no full cap mags to California or New Jersey for example).

The FFL doesn't have to take possession of the firearm... A background check just has to be done on the buyer before they can legally take possession of your firearm as long as it is an in person deal done with both parties at the FFL. They do keep ahold of the paperwork however... I was told that they are *highly recommended* to do the transfer for the people, but they are only required to do a background check. I.E. No transfer through them is actually needed. The gun, in no way shape or form, becomes theirs at any part of the deal.

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Originally Posted by spyder

The FFL doesn't have to take possession of the firearm... A background check just has to be done on the buyer before they can legally take possession of your firearm as long as it is an in person deal done with both parties at the FFL. They do keep ahold of the paperwork however...

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FFL must log it into and out of his bound book - IF the transaction goes forward. If the transferror didn't relinquish the firearm to the FFL and the transferee is denied, the FFL just has to retain the denied 4473 in his records, like any other, but the firearm never goes into his book. The FFL writes "private party transfer" on such 4473s to distinguish them from acquisitions or dispositions out of inventory.

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Originally Posted by Circuits

FFL must log it into and out of his bound book - IF the transaction goes forward. If the transferror didn't relinquish the firearm to the FFL and the transferee is denied, the FFL just has to retain the denied 4473 in his records, like any other, but the firearm never goes into his book. The FFL writes "private party transfer" on such 4473s to distinguish them from acquisitions or dispositions out of inventory.

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This was only what I heard... I will get more info tomorrow when I pick up my new baby on their interpretation of everything.....

Honestly though, I thought it only called for a background check, and not a transfer through an FFL?

So I thought I'd provide an update. This new process really sucks.

After figuring out what my neighbor was up to I found another FFL fairly close to my home that's doing them for $20. He does not take possession of the firearm and he's a pretty good guy. His thoughts are that he can use the private party checks to establish a larger clientele for his business, with his customer focused approach I have a feeling he's going to be very successful.

I've had several people express interest and commit to buying a firearm Listed on Armslist. The first buyer decided to flake on me, I drove off after seeing the second buyer and refused to return his calls and last night my 3rd buyer got his background check rejected because his DL expired 3 days ago. I really miss the old way.

Can a mod please edit the title to reflect the correct spelling? Thanks!