Terms & Conditions for posting for sale items??

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Originally Posted by KellyTTE

Since I'm the one that chided the seller, I suppose I should weigh in.

I'm not saying that anyone has to show up and be an expert on the AR platform, or wage war as a professional or anything else. But heck, even posting a 'Hi I'm a new guy, wanted to say hi' or 'hey I'd like to go to the next shoot' is a huge way to break the ice and be friendly.

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You went over to LF, basically posted a lot of off topic messages that were rants (as you are wont to do) and they banned you. At least tell the whole story.

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In the current political environment there is NOTHING more important than all of us sticking together. The fellow trying to sell his rifles at any price was hurting no one. Kelly TTE however has managed to alienate a fellow shooter and judging by what he was selling a very active shooter. Thanks to Kelly TTE it looks like that guy will not be returning. That harms all of us. Personally I work hard to stay off of the ATF's RADAR and am willing to pay a considerable premium for Face to Face local sales. I’ll thank you not to presume to tell me what it is worth to me. It is REALLY hard to find good FF AR's locally at ANY price.

Kelly TTE you owe all of us an apology for doing real measurable harm to this community.

If you are not man enough to publicly admit your error and apologize then Osprey may decide that his sense of fairness requires you to sell me one of your AR's at what ever price he deems fair. Or just maybe he should stay out of it like you should have stayed out of this other fellows thread.

I think that considering all Kelly has done to HELP the community, he is certainly allowed to question a newcomer who thus far had only appeared to be a profiteer...

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Originally Posted by atrdriver1

In the current political environment there is NOTHING more important than all of us sticking together. The fellow trying to sell his rifles at any price was hurting no one. Kelly TTE however has managed to alienate a fellow shooter and judging by what he was selling a very active shooter. Thanks to Kelly TTE it looks like that guy will not be returning. That harms all of us. Personally I work hard to stay off of the ATF's RADAR and am willing to pay a considerable premium for Face to Face local sales. I’ll thank you not to presume to tell me what it is worth to me. It is REALLY hard to find good FF AR's locally at ANY price.

Kelly TTE you owe all of us an apology for doing real measurable harm to this community.

If you are not man enough to publicly admit your error and apologize then Osprey may decide that his sense of fairness requires you to sell me one of your AR's at what ever price he deems fair. Or just maybe he should stay out of it like you should have stayed out of this other fellows thread.

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WTF

Mr 14 post demands an apology from someone who's been here way more then 14 post.

Sir, I don't like the cut of your jib.

Like it or not right is right whether it is on post 14 or post 414. Feel free to disagree, but to imply post count has anything to do with it is just silly because I am refering to the shooting community not just this particular website.

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Originally Posted by jim

WTF

Mr 14 post demands an apology from someone who's been here way more then 14 post.

Sir, I don't like the cut of your jib.

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Jim I really wish you hadn't gone there. The fact that someone only has 14 posts doesn't mean he has any less of an opinion or can't contribute to a thread any less than someone with higher posts. While both sides of this discussion has merit, there is no reason to go off on that path. Lets try to keep this some what constructive.

Well put GhostRider ..

Atrdriver1 .. I'm not going to be Kelly's champion here. I haven't read the post in question, but you either like Kelly a shit ton or you can't stand him.. He's a good egg, odd ( nuthin but love Kelly) but a good guy who will bend over backwards for the folks here. If he's calling someone out and he's wrong, it's the mods gig to correct him. He has contributed more to this site and several others than 95% of the members, mayhaps you could take that in to consideration in your assessment.

This has become a dead issue, the mods have been very clear they aren't going to change the rules, this isn't the first time and I suspect it will not be the last that this issue has been brought up. The good news is that we haven't had a serious enough incident to require us as a community to take some of these steps.. keep your fingers crossed that we don't have to face those issues.

Now off with you all, drag yourselves to the next club shoot and start contributing!

Heinlein says the easiest way to see if a deal is fair is to turn it around and offer it to the other person.

I hereby declare myself offended by atrdriver1's comments. I insist that he apologize to me and offer my one of his weapons at a price that I deem fair.

That seem reasonable to you? Of course not. If you insist that a persons actions, be they in person, or in text, should be given a pass simply because he's a member of the 'gun community' without examination, then you encourage a community that doesn't police itself and encourages morally cannibalistic actions. If a person puts themselves out there, be it in opinion, for sale post, or other action, then they, as men of conscience, should be willing to tolerate feedback on their actions.

Such feedback is the hallmark of a mature and civilized society.

Just remember, follow the rules of the 'Trading Post' (the for sale/trade sections) and all will be good [Beer]


Don't follow them and your post will be deleted, continue and you'll be banned (at least for a short time).

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Originally Posted by BadShot

Well put GhostRider ..

Atrdriver1 .. I'm not going to be Kelly's champion here. I haven't read the post in question, but you either like Kelly a shit ton or you can't stand him.. He's a good egg, odd ( nuthin but love Kelly) but a good guy who will bend over backwards for the folks here. If he's calling someone out and he's wrong, it's the mods gig to correct him. He has contributed more to this site and several others than 95% of the members, mayhaps you could take that in to consideration in your assessment.

This has become a dead issue, the mods have been very clear they aren't going to change the rules, this isn't the first time and I suspect it will not be the last that this issue has been brought up. The good news is that we haven't had a serious enough incident to require us as a community to take some of these steps.. keep your fingers crossed that we don't have to face those issues.

Now off with you all, drag yourselves to the next club shoot and start contributing!

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