Do you modify your carry weapon

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Originally Posted by bigun1962

Sights really???? When my recruits can't help but jerk the trigger I take the sights off the gun, mix in some dummie rounds and film them. Sights on a carry gun are near worthelss. If you need sights on your carry gun, you will need cover worse.

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You're out of your damn mind.

You have to be able to account for the rounds you fired. A good set of sights should be an immediate upgrade to something like a glock.

Before we start throwing stones, I've gone through a couple of shooting investigations with .gov agencies that tend to look into things when you kill folks. The ability to articulate what the threat was and what I saw when I chose to engage the threat was pretty freaking useful... to put it mildly.

"I placed the front sight (dot, reticle, etc) on center mass of the target and processed the threat until it was no longer viable."

Is a whole lot better than

"I think I was shooting at the threat but I was too busy running for cover to be sure. I never saw any reference to ensure the rounds I fired were impacting the intended target."

Sighted fire scores hits. Spray and pray (even in CENTCOM AOs but especially CONUS) is just asking for additional scrutiny. This has been well established.

Please update your TTPs before offering people advice.

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Originally Posted by bigun1962

Sights really???? When my recruits can't help but jerk the trigger I take the sights off the gun, mix in some dummie rounds and film them. Sights on a carry gun are near worthelss. If you need sights on your carry gun, you will need cover worse.

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Very sound advice, maybe I should have Bert remove the sights from my Glock before I continue carrying. Bert how soon can you fit me in, I don't want to be without a carry weapon for to long?......... <sarcasm>

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Originally Posted by Monky

Someone please site a case where this happened or stfu with the speculation.


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It's been done befo.

Im really interested to know how shooting without a point of reference aka sights will improve my chance of winning a gunfight or stopping an assailint. On that note...
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/09/a4yjabem.jpg


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Without a front sight, what does one look at while pulling the trigger?

One winks at the nearest lady like a baller!

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Originally Posted by earplug

Without a front sight, what does one look at while pulling the trigger?

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They look at their freedom and then kiss it goodbye.

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Originally Posted by blacklabel

They look at their freedom and then kiss it goodbye.

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That's the cold hard reality of it.

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Originally Posted by Monky

Someone please site a case where this happened or stfu with the speculation.


Sent by a free-range electronic weasel, with no sense of personal space.

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Nothing to cite without doing more research. But this is a good reading of that argument.

http://www.armedcitizensnetwork.org/...ork_2011-3.pdf


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Originally Posted by earplug

Without a front sight, what does one look at while pulling the trigger?

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Originally Posted by blacklabel

They look at their freedom and then kiss it goodbye.

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Originally Posted by hatidua

That's the cold hard reality of it.

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I'm all for quality equipment and sights. But what if my attacker is on top of me and all I can do is draw and fire from the hip? Where do the sights play in? Am I gonna go to jail for not using my sights?