I recall this happening after he was personally attacked several times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeffrey Lebowski
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I recall this happening after he was personally attacked several times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeffrey Lebowski
That may be the case, and while I don't think the personal attacks are productive in discussion, my personal opinion is that it no longer fits what the phrase "devil's advocate" means.Quote:
Originally Posted by tmleadr03
He was clearly defending the policy - I followed less the ad hominem defenses.
-This isn't a "told you so" or a delicious irony observation, either. It isn't schadenfreud - I'm sincerely disappointed for the people this hurts - even the cheerleaders.
I am curious how the opinion has held up over time and experience, though.
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Originally Posted by Jeffrey Lebowski
Other people attacked him. I realize this is hard to comprehend but if you are attacked you respond. But that does not mean that just because you are attacked and you defend yourself you are actually defending the topic you were playing devils advocate for.
And lets be absolutely clear. You have NO CLUE what the phrase "Devils Advocate" means.
First thing I thought of as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bailey Guns
Ha, yeah nice try.Quote:
Originally Posted by tmleadr03
I would feel bad for the cheerleaders if I thought it would actually be a wake up call. Sadly, I don't think it will.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeffrey Lebowski
So tell me O Wise One. What does that phrase mean?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharpienads
You misunderstand. I'm saying Ridge wasn't playing devil's advocate as much as he would like you to believe, regardless of what the thread title is.Quote:
Originally Posted by tmleadr03
Correct. I believe I made the distinction perfectly clear - he was defending the topic.Quote:
Originally Posted by tmleadr03
Your opinion: I have "no clue" what "the phrase 'Devils Advocate' [sic] means." And that's perfectly fine.
My opinion: He started with Devil's Advocate as a guise and moved right into actual defense over the course of several subsequent threads.
Edit: Or just ask him. You can attack my opinion because of your interpretation of what he says, or you can just ask him, "Ridge - were you actually for the PPACA in any form or were you truly setting up debate using Devil's Advocate as a position to initiate conversation?
https://www.ar-15.co/threads/115963-...=1#post1344395 - We don't have to agree on this one. Sounds pretty clear there are at least one part of it he seems to like. Maybe that's what Devil's Advocate means to you, in which case we don't agree on what it means. ;)
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Originally Posted by Jeffrey Lebowski
LOL. I figured you would try to defend yourself but instead you come back and state blatantly that while you don't know what you are talking about you believe you are still correct.
And no, that is not opinion, that would clearly be fact.
Check the edit afterthough, if you'd be so kind, and then explain exactly what I do not know. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by tmleadr03
This is precisely what I am saying as well. $0.02Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharpienads
It has been pointed out recently I do not know what I am talking about, however.