Being green... the truth behind the "older" generation vs today's youth.

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Originally Posted by Jamnanc

I like it and agree that old school was better, but dad also changed the oil by dropping the old stuff on the ground, same with antifreeze. We're also talking about the generation that dumped so much shit in the rivers that they could catch fire. There is some balance between being responsible and the religion of tree hugging.

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I will keep silent since many of the things you talk about were done by corporations. Now your dad was also stupid because my parents never dropped perfectly good oil into the ground. That is what waste oil heaters are for and have been for 60 years. But you knew that. I do not remember my river catching fire but then it was the Willamette. We burned sawdust for heat so you know what it is like coming home from school to a house that is 50 because it hung up in the hopper. no button to push there.[Flower]

There's a lot of those "good old days" posts making the rounds lately. Personally, I don't know many people that don't look back on their childhood with nostalgia and a yen to go back to the way things were when they were simpler, more straightforward and/to seemed to make sense.

I like a lot of the technology that is available to us now. I use a lot of it. Because of the technologies available, I am able to use the internet to learn ways of stretching my money, of growing a better garden more efficiently, new canning recipes and the like, as well as reaching out to people with similar interests and like-mind communities. Technology aids us in our jobs. Technology is not the devil.

What is dismaying to any older generation is the casual, cavalier and entitled attitude the younger generation always seem to have. There's no winning their "arguments" because they have a straw man in every pocket: if their parents home is not up to date with the latest technology, you're making them live in the dark ages. If the live in the city, you're killing off nature. Unless parents take time to teach their kids respect, there will always be a division.

I remember I did a project in high school where I said everyone had to live off the land for a year before becoming a citizen. No one liked the idea.

Blaming is bullshit. Do something or stfu. If u are doing something then positively encourage others. Don't be a Debbie downer.

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Originally Posted by ray1970

Thank for posting this up, Ronin.

Personally, I can't stand the way society is today. I bet if the internet and all the cell phone towers crashed for about a week, there would be mass suicides across our country.

This new generation of tree-hugging, lazy, unrealistic idealist who believe in a utopian world really chaff my a$$.

I don't even really want to see where we will be in about ten or fifteen years.

I'm in my mid forties but I can already understand why older people aren't afraid of death. They are just happy to be checking out.

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I couldn't have said it better!

What a lot of them don't think about is that many of the things that were done that weren't "good for the planet" weren't done out of not caring, be rather not knowing what the results could be. Dumping oil straight out of the car onto the ground - who would have thought that putting something back into the ground it came out of would be a bad thing. Once studies were done and people realized the ramifications, they speed doing it. I remember growing up and seeing my parents/grandparents reusing things that today many would never think of. Bag from a loaf of "Store bought" bread would be reused for home baked bread or a lunch bag (multiple times until it would fall apart). Broken tv can't be fixed? It would become a curio cabinet with the cord being turned into a new extension cord. I can think of many others too.

How good for the environment are all those batteries from hybrid cars when they go bad? I've read studies that say from start to finish a hybrid car will leave a larger carbon footprint than a regular gasoline model of the same car. Hell, for all we know, all the smoke from the legalized pot here in Colorado could be depleting the ozone layer at a faster rate than all the vehicle emissions.

Oil was "discovered" because it was weeping out of the ground. Oil leaks out of the earth's crust, including into the oceans. Why doesn't the earth know better about being "green"?

Everyone likes to say the older guys where better then us young guys. I would like to say thanks for giving us the New Deal.

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Originally Posted by bobbyfairbanks

Everyone likes to say the older guys where better then us young guys. I would like to say thanks for giving us the New Deal.

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And thank you back for Obama Care.

Hell, even I remember paper bag book covers (wow it's been a while since I've thought of those), and I'm only 29!
(The old woman could have told the young teller "Well, it's been shown that reusable bags carry more disease, you just want to throw me off the cliff don't you?")

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Originally Posted by Whistler

And thank you back for Obama Care.

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You missed the point. The supposed greatest generation that reminds everyone how great they are literally fucked us all over good and hard but they will never say that. We just get reminded all the time how perfect they are and how horrible everyone else is

How exactly did that generation screw you over?

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