Corrupt Establishment GOP is Crony Capitalism's Bought and Paid for Political Arm

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Originally Posted by Bailey Guns

And cujo, I couldn't care less what you think of me. I value the opinions of people I respect. Idiots just bore me.

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The feeling is mutual. Now go back to being a tool.

Yes I missed any earlier explanation. Fair enough. I can respect your position. I don't agree with all of it, but I can see where you come from. I also respect Cujos opinion, and can see his points. Name calling and downgrading really is not the way to go, just seems to degrade the discussion.

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Originally Posted by Bailey Guns

Whatever. Name-calling is name-calling. He did it. I did it. You did it.

I've explained over and over why I vote republican. I've explained over and over why I believe party trumps person. I've explained over and over why I believe the republican party and the democrat party are not the same. I've also explained why I think many republicans (McCain, Boehner and Christie to name a few) are part of the problem with the republican party. I'm sorry you missed it.

Yes there are alternatives. No, there are no viable alternatives if one wants a share of governing in DC.

It's kinda like the old saying, "I love my country, I hate my government." I'm not willing to throw the baby out with the bath water. I believe the republican party, in and of itself and separate from many in the party, is still the best option available if we want to get back on track to traditional conservative values in this country. There are many up and coming republican politicians who I believe really want to change things...some who've been elected and some who are trying to get elected.

Change isn't going to come by wishing more libertarians (or insert favored party here ______) could get elected. So that's why I vote for republican party candidates. Because the party in charge controls things. And I'd rather have republicans in charge than democrats (and since there isn't a viable alternative those are my only two choices), not because the party is perfect, but because the republican part platform more closely reflects my beliefs.

See? It can be explained without all the name-calling, ridiculous rhetoric and nonsense that cujo finds so fascinating and necessary.

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Originally Posted by Bailey Guns

Whatever. Name-calling is name-calling. He did it. I did it. You did it.

It's kinda like the old saying, "I love my country, I hate my government." I'm not willing to throw the baby out with the bath water. I believe the republican party, in and of itself and separate from many in the party, is still the best option available if we want to get back on track to traditional conservative values in this country. There are many up and coming republican politicians who I believe really want to change things...some who've been elected and some who are trying to get elected.

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I don't "hate my government"; I do, however, want it to adhere firmly to the Constitution and be held accountable for misdeeds and institutional corruption, i.e. using the IRS to target the Tea Party (or any other political entity). I also believe that while the DNC is corrupt to its core, that makes it even more paramount that that the GOP rank-and-file hold the leadership to high standards and purge them ruthlessly when they get seduced by power and the perks that go along with it. I have zero tolerance for corruption, fraud, and sleaze in either party, or those who make excuses for it. We cannot get back to "traditional conservative values" in this country by turning a blind eye to debauched, compromised GOP leaders like...well, most of them to be brutally honest. And I want their sorry a$$es kicked to the curb, like Cantor's was (God bless the primary voters of his district) and the rest being put on notice that if they have GOP as their party affiliation, they damn well better embody republican principles or move on to their true calling as K Street lobbyists or white collar criminals. So I do have some common ground with Bailey Guns, despite finding his blind partisanship distasteful.

I'm sorry, but I believe your post, the first answer to the OP is what started us down the road of name calling, then others joined in when they smelled blood in the water. Possibly all of us might think about toning down our responses just a little to facilitate more informative discussions.

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Originally Posted by Bailey Guns

Now, milwaukee, go back and read cujo's last couple of posts. Talk to me again about vulgarity and who's "rabid".

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If that's the type of person you'd want to associate with, regardless of political leanings, then we really have nothing to talk about.

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http://www.marketwatch.com/story/con...der-2014-06-21

This is crony capitalism in action. Insiders using their access for financial gain, undeterred by a plausible threat of consequences. While these small fry got popped, the 2008 financial crisis (which was deferred, not resolved) shows the systemic nature of the collusion between Wall Street, the Treasury, and the Federal Reserve, with speculative losses being transferred to taxpayers as the Fed did when it foisted $2.3 trillion in toxic-waste mortgage-backed securities from its primary-dealer banks (i.e. JP Morgan) and put taxpayers on the hook instead. Regulators and enforcers were conspicuously absent, and many of their top officials look forward to post-retirement careers with the same financial firms they're supposed to be policing. When the next asset bubble bursts, guess who's going to be left holding the bag again? Not the gamblers and swindlers, that's for sure. And neither the GOP nor DNC will put the public interest first, rest assured.

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Originally Posted by Bailey Guns

Reading your nonsense is like reading HuffPo.

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I do not take kindly to ignorant, unjustified, ad hominem smears.

I am with you. As I said maybe we all need to ratchet it down.

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Originally Posted by Cujo0920

I do not take kindly to ignorant, unjustified, ad hominem smears.

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Originally Posted by Cujo0920

I do not take kindly to ignorant, unjustified, ad hominem smears.

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So we should do as you say, not as you do?

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Originally Posted by Cujo0920

I do not take kindly to ignorant, unjustified, ad hominem smears.

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[ROFL2] You? get serious, based on one of your attacks on me, in another thread.

One of the typical responses when things don't go the way you want , resort to, I'M BEING ATTACKED.

I'm sure at some point you will eventually run out of colorful terms to call everyone and use your clearly advanced brain to tell us all how you actually plan to change the republicans to your liking. Or are you planning on just continuing to beat up the republicans, and prove my point. And as far as I'm concerned I will take a bad republican over any democrat. When I still had my own business I used to hire a lot of young naive loud mouths like you because it was always good to hire them while they were still young enough to know everything. Occasionally I would hire them just so I could fire them, Oh the good old days.