Police Chief in Uniform Told to Leave Gun Outside Ikea

I think the second amendment was written to balance where this rationale eventually leads.

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Originally Posted by speedysst

I think off duty sworn officers, especially those in uniform, have a bit more authority and responsibility than Joe Schmoe Ikea shoppers.

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It isn't just IKEA or Topeka. Fort Collins police officer was asked to stop wearing his uniform/sidearm when he dropped off his daughter at elementary school while in his cruiser on his way to work. When asked why, the principal explained she had a couple complaints from other parents who felt uncomfortable that the weapon was on school grounds. There are too many people who have a significant inability to maintain a grip on life.

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Originally Posted by speedysst

I think off duty sworn officers, especially those in uniform, have a bit more authority and responsibility than Joe Schmoe Ikea shoppers.

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Like I said in post #5 above...

Good luck with that line of reasoning, btw.


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Originally Posted by sellersm

Police guns are OK because of all the training they've had.

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Yes, if there's one thing that can be said about law enforcement officers around the country, is that their training has made them some of the best marksman in the world.[Sarcasm2]

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Originally Posted by BPTactical

I see what you did there

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Originally Posted by clodhopper

There are too many people who have a significant inability to maintain a grip on life.

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That, and there are too many people who give a flying fuck what everybody and their brother thinks ( probably many of the same people).....

The way I figure, if something about me make someone uncomfortable, too fucking bad - deal with it.....particularly since its likely that the entire fact of their liberal douchebag existence makes me uncomfortable, but I've learned to live with it....

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Originally Posted by DireWolf

That, and there are too many people who give a flying fuck what everybody and their brother thinks ( probably many of the same people).....

The way I figure, if something about me make someone uncomfortable, too fucking bad - deal with it.....particularly since its likely that the entire fact of their liberal douchebag existence makes me uncomfortable, but I've learned to live with it....

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I was just perusing the Constitution, and somehow missed the part where everyone had the right to ban stuff that made them uncomfortable. Probably because there IS NO SUCH portion. I agree with you...we need to fight back against the PC movement. or as Chopper would say "Harden the f*ck up!!"

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I think the more police officers and government representatives in general have to cope with the laws and the society they're creating with the enforcement and promulgation of stupid laws, the better chance we all have for more reasonable laws and enforcement.

It's too easy for government representatives to pass and enforce stupid laws when they're exempt from same. If our representatives had 35% of their gross earnings confiscated by the government for redistribution, I think they'd think twice before they pass the next entitlement program. If they had to run a business and try to earn a living while complying with every stupid EPA, OSHA, ADA, IRS, DHS, etc. mandate, maybe they'd wake the fuck up and understand that the Government is the single largest and most consistent impediment to success anyone could ever fathom.

If a government official has to wander around an IKEA store while worrying for his personal safety and the safety of his family member(s) as well as worrying about the wisdom of leaving a loaded weapon in his glovebox, well then maybe it'll give them an opportunity to consider how the rest of us feel when we confront a similar situation on nearly a daily basis and can't seek an exemption based on favored government status.

I know there's a dictionary definition of tyranny, but I heard one on the radio the other day that's rings true for me: when your biggest worry in any given day is how the government might change your life for the worse, then you're living in tyranny. For me, most days, I think I'm there.

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Originally Posted by NFATrustGuy

I think the more police officers and government representatives in general have to cope with the laws and the society they're creating with the enforcement and promulgation of stupid laws, the better chance we all have for more reasonable laws and enforcement.

It's too easy for government representatives to pass and enforce stupid laws when they're exempt from same. If our representatives had 35% of their gross earnings confiscated by the government for redistribution, I think they'd think twice before they pass the next entitlement program. If they had to run a business and try to earn a living while complying with every stupid EPA, OSHA, ADA, IRS, DHS, etc. mandate, maybe they'd wake the fuck up and understand that the Government is the single largest and most consistent impediment to success anyone could ever fathom.

If a government official has to wander around an IKEA store while worrying for his personal safety and the safety of his family member(s) as well as worrying about the wisdom of leaving a loaded weapon in his glovebox, well then maybe it'll give them an opportunity to consider how the rest of us feel when we confront a similar situation on nearly a daily basis and can't seek an exemption based on favored government status.

I know there's a dictionary definition of tyranny, but I heard one on the radio the other day that's rings true for me: when your biggest worry in any given day is how the government might change your life for the worse, then you're living in tyranny. For me, most days, I think I'm there.

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Originally Posted by speedysst

I think off duty sworn officers, especially those in uniform, have a bit more authority and responsibility than Joe Schmoe Ikea shoppers.

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Usually I would disagree with this, but this was a UNIFORMED officer. As such, if there is any issue while he is there, whether he is off-duty or not, he's in uniform, which means people are going to come to him. He can't just tell people, "Sorry IKEA took my gun, deal with the problem yourself."