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While I know it looks like I was directing that comment to you (I was concerned it would appear that way), I was not - it was a general statement. In fact, I do believe that you "get it" as I, and most of us, do.Quote:
Originally Posted by hurley842002
This is such a classic case of what happens to most organizations that start out as "need-based": the organization spins up because it wants to "help", or "fix something" or "meet a need", etc. etc. Later in time, the problem that existed is close to being eradicated but the people in the organization don't want to close their doors!! So what can they do? Many (not all) organizations just continue to propagate/perpetuate the problem so the organization will continue!!!
When an organization has truly met the need that caused it to begin, and that organization then closes its doors because there's no more "need", then I salute those in that organization!!
When an organization uses unethical, immoral, and/or 'wrong' means to propagate their own existence, when the need *could* be met and eradicated, then I call those organizations on the carpet and attempt to expose their sinful ways, selfish nature and reprobate actions.
Interesting that a forum of 7700 members has basically written DB off as a charlatan, yet there is still an audience to proselytize to.
No worries at all [beer]Quote:
Originally Posted by theGinsue
Just further validates the fact that not only do ACTUAL pro 2a folks not want to be associated with DB, they don't even want their words to be taken the wrong way lol.
The Leftists are great at pulling off the whole wolves in sheep's clothing and worming there way into power, passing bills/laws based off of emotional and feel good arguments. Maybe one day we will begin to pick up on this and start fighting fire with fire. Say what we have to do to get elected then raise the flag of we don't give 2 shits what you remember us telling you, this is how its going to be. But alas it seems the only time the Right plays dirty is when its advantageous to the other side or when we are shooting ourselves in the crotch. End Rant.
Hi, my name is Th3w01f and I was a member of RMGO.... for 12 months.
Now I'm a member of the NRA and GOA, this site helped me see the light.
Dudley will never get another dollar from me for one reason: He doesn't f-ing LISTEN to his supporters. His agenda is defined by HIS agenda. The final straw was when the recalls were just beginning to gather steam, and he said it was a waste of time, then tried to take credit when it appeared that they might succeed.
I for one will hold my elected officials accountable for catering to Brown and accepting his $$$$ while choosing to ignore my concerns and position on issues. You know them because they are very vocal in their support for him and willingly accept his contributions to their campaigns. Although they are in a safe district, they will not again receive my vote. I will either vote for another who better represents me or just not vote for that office. I chose to not blindly follow any party or candidate.
The dems and Dudley got exactly what they wanted.
The dems wanted to get the pro-gun people fighting amongst themselves, there was never a 30rd bill, not even a draft.
Dudley got an talking point to raise more money on.
And even if there was a bill drafted and voted on, Hick would never sign it while there was no threat of a veto over ride.
Yeah, I can't believe that there is this much "he said-she said" fighting going on over an issue that was never even an issue. There was never any talk of a "30 round" compromise anywhere other than between Caldera and Dudley.. and neither of them is a member of the state legislature so it might as well just be two bums arguing in an alley.
I'm not even sure why Caldera would want the 30 round compromise because it then destroys the basis of their own mag ban lawsuit which is based on "common use". The only reason he would want it would be that they know there is no hope for the lawsuit to succeed in overturning the law.