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10-12-2016, 10:30
Zundfolge

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Originally Posted by Rumline

Just curious: why not?

Because at this point he wouldn't even be on the ballots ... all the votes for "Trump-Pence" would be thrown out and we'd be left writing Pence in, which never works.
10-12-2016, 10:33
Rumline

LOL, well that was a very clear and concise answer. Didn't think of that. Thanks.
10-12-2016, 12:56
Graves

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Originally Posted by Zundfolge

These conspiracy theories that Trump is a Hillary plant, or he doesn't really want to be president just launch [insert business venture here] make as much sense as Elvis being the shooter on the Grassy Knoll.

He wants to be president, he's invested way too much in his campaign to be just a plant and stands to lose a LOT if he loses (he's burned his bridge to the entertainment world, that's for sure and probably burned his bridge to the NYC power structure, which he needs to continue development in NYC) ... and frankly he would just drop out now if he was just a plant (Mike Pence isn't going to win on his own).

Whether he can win or not, whether he's a good guy or not, none of this means that he's throwing the election on purpose. The idea is just silly.

Other than seeing footage of him endorsing the Clintons way back when, I personally don't have enough information to belive he's a Clinton plant. I'd just like to clarify that I wouldn't be surprised to see him play it off as though he meant to lose if that is what in fact happens come November. I also think he can afford to ride this venture out pretty far in an attempt to stay relevant.
10-12-2016, 13:04
Great-Kazoo

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Originally Posted by Graves

Other than seeing footage of him endorsing the Clintons way back when, I personally don't have enough information to belive he's a Clinton plant. I'd just like to clarify that I wouldn't be surprised to see him play it off as though he meant to lose if that is what in fact happens come November. I also think he can afford to ride this venture out pretty far in an attempt to stay relevant.

You and Z didn't know him or of him in NY. I did. he's not an R never will be ab R or as i have posted numerous times ...Only ran as an R because the D's had the HRC fix in for the long game.
10-12-2016, 13:09
Graves

It isn't uncommon for folks to flip flop at all. The differences between the two parties have become almost trivial. Like I said, Jim, I don't have enough info to say one way or the other. Unfortunately neither would surprise me.
10-12-2016, 13:36
Zundfolge

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Originally Posted by Graves

I'd just like to clarify that I wouldn't be surprised to see him play it off as though he meant to lose if that is what in fact happens come November.

Maybe,

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I also think he can afford to ride this venture out pretty far in an attempt to stay relevant.

His business will be ruined if he loses. Like I said before, he's burned the bridges with the leftist run entertainment industry (they act like they hate him worse than Bush) and he's burned the bridges with the liberal run NYC government so he's going to have a much harder time developing anything in NYC.

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Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo

You and Z didn't know him or of him in NY. I did. he's not an R never will be ab R or as i have posted numerous times ...Only ran as an R because the D's had the HRC fix in for the long game.

There are a lot of great voices on the right that used to be libs. Bill Whittle, Andrew Breitbart, Evan Sayet, Thomas Sowell, David Horowitz, Milton Friedman, Dennis Prager ... the list goes on. Its entirely possible that he has come around to the conservative way of thinking. Also to say that "he's not an R never will be ab R" ... first that's not true, he's called himself a Republican long before running for office but at this point the R's are pretty screwed up ... I've been registered as an R since 1987 (when I turned 18) and have considered myself one since long before that ... I'm seriously considering dropping my party affiliation as its pretty clear that the GOP is run by Democrats now.

For conservatives that oppose Trump I have two questions for you. 1) Did you vote for McCain and 2) Did you vote for Romney ... because as of today I'd say Trump looks more conservative than both of those losers.
10-12-2016, 13:57
hurley842002

Yeah I don't buy the "once a D, always a D" statement. My mother was a D since 82 or thereabouts, and within the last ten years has changed to Republican. Both parties have evolved and don't necessarily represent what they once did.
10-12-2016, 14:16
spqrzilla

The bottom line is that Trump is about Trump. The reason he has failed to get ahead of Hillary ( the worst candidate the Democrats have run in my lifetime ) is that he thinks he can manipulate the media but is in fact easily trolled into the Clinton machine media traps.

Trump thinks he is smarter than everyone who has actually run a national campaign, refuses to build any kind of ground game (which is how Obama beat Romney in an election Romney should have won) and continues to self destruct.

Trump will lose in November in the biggest landslide since McGovern's loss. Why is the GOP establishment running in circles? Because Trump's incompetence now threatens the GOP hold on the Senate and House.
10-12-2016, 14:39
davsel

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Originally Posted by spqrzilla

The bottom line is that Trump is about Trump. The reason he has failed to get ahead of Hillary [He has remained ahead of Hillary - do you really believe the media polls?]( the worst candidate the Democrats have run in my lifetime ) is that he thinks he can manipulate the media [He has successfully trolled the media for months - Bills babes was his latest success] but is in fact easily trolled into the Clinton machine media traps [name one "trap" that has hurt Trump. He always turns them around].

Trump thinks he is smarter than everyone who has actually run a national campaign, refuses to build any kind of ground game [He has had so many rallies in just about every state in the Union it's hard to keep track, and he continues to set attendance records - what are you talking about?] (which is how Obama beat Romney in an election Romney should have won) and continues to self destruct [ When CNN and MSNBC say Trump is "self destructing," you can bet he is not].

Trump will lose in November in the biggest landslide since McGovern's loss [You got that backwards]. Why is the GOP establishment running in circles? [ Because they are about to lose control of the money trough ]Because Trump's incompetence now threatens the GOP hold on the Senate and House [Their own treachery caused their demise. We gave them the House in 2008 - they did nothing to stop Obama. We gave them the Senate in 2012 - they've done nothing].

Your post sounds like a summary of CNN and MSNBC political news hour. Do you really believe them?
10-12-2016, 14:58
spqrzilla

davsel,

Rallies are not votes. If you don't trust polls, fine. But then you have what, exactly, to show that Trump is "ahead" of Hillary? Zipola.

Look at Stephen Green's analysis of the current electoral college voting lineup:
https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2016...al-college-44/

Trump's incompetence has put Utah in doubt. And what is Trump going to do to turn this around? Ohio has started early voting.

And your attempt to refute my comment about Trump's non existent ground game with rallies is completely irrelevant.

Here is an example of how much of a catastrophe Trump's failure really is:
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/fl...rticle/2604323

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