CNN now if you need to raise your blood pressure

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Originally Posted by KAPA

I am just going off of his history. He has to know that if wants to get elected again chipping away at 2A is going to lose him alot of support. With how divided our country is, even if he banned all guns, he is still not going to pick up any votes from the left so what does he actually accomplish there.

His history shows that he is willing to give a little to get a little more in return. Look at this DACA thing. He makes a statement that maybe these folks can get a path to citizenship in a decade if they stay out of trouble and blend into our culture. In return he wants the wall and several other things. I think I am willing to take that but the Dems are fighting it and he turns it back on them saying they are the ones preventing DACA from being resolved.

I suspect this gun thing will have a similar tactic!

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I hope you are right!

I'll say it again; if it results in gun control Trump is done in 2020. The numbers and opposition means he can't afford to break his base without winning any cross over support to make up for it.

If he thinks people are going to stop hating him, he is a fool. The country has never been more polarized.

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Originally Posted by Skip

I hope you are right!

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Me too.... Its going to happen where Dems are eventually in control again, it's cyclical and inevitable. At the rate we are going with these nutcases every six months, the next D POTUS will do a lot of damage to 2A.

Right now, our best bet is to find a way to prevent this crap from happening and be able to show a decline in this sort of thing. He better be able to get teachers/staff the ability to arm themselves and hopefully the next time this happens, one of the armed teachers is able to down the killer when they encounter him.

That happens, and he not only saves lives but he wins the argument!

How CNN shaped the debate.

Take a good look at these kids. Can any of them be accountable for the negative consequences they are creating? Not in a million years. The one with the shaved head looks like a mental case herself.

This seems like another shit test.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGEU0g8atx8

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Originally Posted by Gman

Couldn't make it through 2 minutes. A history teacher wanting Dana Loesch to explain to her how she defines the militia and wants supporting information. Well, you're a freaking history teacher. Read the Federalist papers and educate yourself! The information is out there.

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"All males 18-49, and women in the armed forces. So, if you're wanting guns restricted to the militia, clearly you hate women and the elderly. Next question."

..."the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed." has nothing to do with limiting arms to "militias".

The calls are transitioning to ban all "semi-automatic" firearms. You know, the firearm technology that has existed since 1885.

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Originally Posted by Skip

I hope you are right!

I'll say it again; if it results in gun control Trump is done in 2020. The numbers and opposition means he can't afford to break his base without winning any cross over support to make up for it.

If he thinks people are going to stop hating him, he is a fool. The country has never been more polarized.

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See, here is where I think the liberals and Trump haters have got themselves into a box they can't get out of.

They hate, hate, HATE Trump and have made it clear every minute of every day since he took office (and really, before that.) They also know (or should know) that he takes insults and slights very personally.

So this puts them in a quandary: If Trump starts to voice support for even a tepid measure like banning bump stocks, they have to back off on their criticism, because if they don't, he's likely to say "there's no pleasing you assholes" and drop the whole thing. OTOH the "base" of the dems and pro gun controllers hates Trump so much that they are going to keep haranguing and hating on him no matter what he does.

So there's no up-side in supporting gun control for Trump. He's going to get hated and blamed no matter what he does, and if he ends up flip flopping on gun control, a huge portion of his own base will abandon him.

It's like the old saying that when you desert your old friends for new ones you end up losing BOTH.

If liberals hadn't been so vocal in their hatred for Trump they might be able to curry some favor with him. But once you take the hate and turn it up to 11, you can't really go back.

It's like calling someone an asshole for 364 days and then on day 365 asking if they'll loan you $50 and help you move. Not likely.

CNN denies giving Florida shooting survivor scripted questions for its town hall on guns

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A student who survived last week's school shooting said CNN gave him scripted questions ahead of a town hall event on Wednesday.

Colton Haab, a junior at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School who shielded students during the shooting, said he had prepared a speech and questions for the town hall but "it ended up being all scripted."

CNN has denied Haab's claim.

A student who survived the Florida shooting has accused CNN of giving him scripted questions during a CNN town hall event on Wednesday night.

Colton Haab, a 17-year-old junior at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, told local WPLG news that he had prepared a question suggesting schools use veterans as armed security guards, but CNN gave him a different question.

"I expected to be able to ask my questions and give my opinion on my questions," Haab said. "CNN had originally asked me to write a speech and questions, and it ended up being all scripted."

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Originally Posted by Martinjmpr

See, here is where I think the liberals and Trump haters have got themselves into a box they can't get out of.

They hate, hate, HATE Trump and have made it clear every minute of every day since he took office (and really, before that.) They also know (or should know) that he takes insults and slights very personally.

So this puts them in a quandary: If Trump starts to voice support for even a tepid measure like banning bump stocks, they have to back off on their criticism, because if they don't, he's likely to say "there's no pleasing you assholes" and drop the whole thing. OTOH the "base" of the dems and pro gun controllers hates Trump so much that they are going to keep haranguing and hating on him no matter what he does.

So there's no up-side in supporting gun control for Trump. He's going to get hated and blamed no matter what he does, and if he ends up flip flopping on gun control, a huge portion of his own base will abandon him.

It's like the old saying that when you desert your old friends for new ones you end up losing BOTH.

If liberals hadn't been so vocal in their hatred for Trump they might be able to curry some favor with him. But once you take the hate and turn it up to 11, you can't really go back.

It's like calling someone an asshole for 364 days and then on day 365 asking if they'll loan you $50 and help you move. Not likely.

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I couldn't think of a better analogy and agree completely!

I hope Trump realizes this.

I don't think they are in a box they want to get out of. They want us in the box too.

Fox News has some great coverage with Trump right now.

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Trump discussed teachers that are proficient, trained, and want to help by arming themselves should get more pay as a result. There's a lot of details that would need to be worked out, but it's a proven fact that "gun free zones" are in fact free kill zones. Continuing to do the same thing is definitely not the answer.